To weld or Not to weld????

[jays68yak]

So I aint got the money to buy any kind of locker for the front right now. Should I just weld it up and go play? I will have crossover and hydro assist so I dont think steering should be too much of an issue.

[CaptainInsano]

shhhhiiiiiiiieeeaaaaatttt

No question ...

BONZAI!

Welded diffs are cool and fun and environmentally friendly! :dance:

My recipe for welding diffs:

Step 1: :drunk:
Step 2a: :welder: on full power "I'm given er all shes gawt keptain"
Step 2b: Weld until a big spider nugget is achieved, hehe Spider nugget
Step 3: :tongue4: at all the open diff folks
Step 4: :poke: Taunt your friends who are non-diff-welding pussies

Welded Diff Visa Commercial

ARB = 900 duckets
Detroit = 700 duckets
Welding Wire = priceless

[KidJethro]

Is your 60 35 spline all the way to the hubs? If it is, and it's only temporary, I'd say do it. If it's 30 spline still, or you don't plan on a Detriot, ARB, etc sometime soon, I wouldn't. You have a gonzo driving style... 30 spline stuff wouldn't last long at all, and I think I'd even worry about the stock Spicer 35 spline stuff in the long term.

[KidJethro]

shhhhiiiiiiiieeeaaaaatttt

No question ...

BONZAI!

Welded diffs are cool and fun and environmentally friendly! :dance:

My recipe for welding diffs:

Step 1: :drunk:
Step 2a: :welder: on full power "I'm given er all shes gawt keptain"
Step 2b: Weld until a big spider nugget is achieved, hehe Spider nugget
Step 3: :tongue4: at all the open diff folks
Step 4: :poke: Taunt your friends who are non-diff-welding pussies

Welded Diff Visa Commercial

ARB = 900 duckets
Detroit = 700 duckets
Welding Wire = priceless

$700 for a Detroit? :blink: Where you getting ripped off from? I paid $549 for mine. :flipoff2:

[4X4HIGH]

And i paid $489.00 for mine. I think i caught it on sale though.

[jays68yak]

too bad HAD doesnt sell detroits.

:unsure:

[jays68yak]

Is your 60 35 spline all the way to the hubs? If it is, and it's only temporary, I'd say do it. If it's 30 spline still, or you don't plan on a Detriot, ARB, etc sometime soon, I wouldn't. You have a gonzo driving style... 30 spline stuff wouldn't last long at all, and I think I'd even worry about the stock Spicer 35 spline stuff in the long term.

ONE day ill go to 35 outters. Do plan on a detroit, just not sure when. Way broke with all this 60 stuff and then now the tranny going out and me having to pay my dad back what hes helping with on the tranny. Im thinking I might get a second job....OSH is highering.

[KidJethro]

Pm'd ya.

[k5krushert1]

weld it its free just weld that sucker up tight

[Dandwg]

dude, i want to get my front 10 bolt welded :) show me how! with pics please! yippy yippy yippy!

[jays68yak]

dude, i want to get my front 10 bolt welded :) show me how! with pics please! yippy yippy yippy!

please hold while a find a post by Joe.....
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3565051&postcount=17

well I used that one when I did my 14b, but he moved the pics so they dont work anymore.

[k5krushert1]

dude, i want to get my front 10 bolt welded :) show me how! with pics please! yippy yippy yippy!

please dont :blink:

[Twisted Whipz]

what the hell do you have a winch for. use yur foot till you get stuck with that open front diff and winch yourself to freedom. with the meats you're gonna be pushing i doubt you'll have much use for the winch anyhow. Bonzai=more skinny pedal. plus its fun to watch

[Twisted Whipz]

it's not about how far you make it. it's about the stories you bring home. plus D60 no wanna breaky first time out like D44

[CaptainInsano]

dude, i want to get my front 10 bolt welded :) show me how! with pics please! yippy yippy yippy!

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/Welded%2010%20bolt.jpg

Like that....

or this for Toylets

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/Welded%20Toy%20Diff.JPG

[CaptainInsano]

shhhhiiiiiiiieeeaaaaatttt

No question ...

BONZAI!

Welded diffs are cool and fun and environmentally friendly! :dance:

My recipe for welding diffs:

Step 1: :drunk:
Step 2a: :welder: on full power "I'm given er all shes gawt keptain"
Step 2b: Weld until a big spider nugget is achieved, hehe Spider nugget
Step 3: :tongue4: at all the open diff folks
Step 4: :poke: Taunt your friends who are non-diff-welding pussies

Welded Diff Visa Commercial

ARB = 900 duckets
Detroit = 700 duckets
Welding Wire = priceless

$700 for a Detroit? :blink: Where you getting ripped off from? I paid $549 for mine. :flipoff2:

I've seen em on the web for that much, and as little as what you say you got yours for, didn't say I bought one. :flipoff2: Wasn't my point.

It ain't what ya got its how ya wheel it in my opinion. I don't see the point in spending a shitload of cash on parts if you don't need to. So far my welded shit has worked out just fine, on my rig and my buddies Toyota.

[jays68yak]

I've seen em on the web for that much, and as little as what you say you got yours for, didn't say I bought one. :flipoff2: Wasn't my point.

It ain't what ya got its how ya wheel it in my opinion. I don't see the point in spending a shitload of cash on parts if you don't need to. So far my welded shit has worked out just fine, on my rig and my buddies Toyota.

The point that Joe is fighting, atleast for me, is that IF I were to weld my front, I would break shafts or joints. With me its not a question of what I break more of when I break. Its going to happen with me. :blink:

I ran a welded loc rite in my 44 for a few trips. I changed a few shafts on those trips. :crazy:

[CaptainInsano]

Haven't seen you drive, but if you are worried about breaking Dana60s I guess I want to. :thumb:

You welded up a LockRite? hehe sweet. I have a LockRite in my 12 bolt, wish I had welded that too, although I was driving on the street at the time.

I've yet to bust a shaft in my 10bolt or 12 bolt, but I carry lots o spares on the trail. I figured I would have grenaded that lock rite by now or busted a u-joint or something. :knocking on wood: I try to stay off the skinny on the rocks, but doesn't ever work out that way too much.

[jays68yak]

yep broke the loc rit. Then welded it on the beach. Then a trip or two later broke one of the welds.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/album12/DSCN1213.sized.jpg

So you havnt heard about the jump?????
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/memorialpismo05/DSCN1021.jpg

[jays68yak]

weld=4
no weld=2

[k5krushert1]

maybe the first time out run it open see how it does if not find at least another carrier for a replacement and weld the diff up so if it breaks at least you have a replacement. i would weld in there more then that so it really holds together

[barbastard]

For our viewing enjoyment…..weld it. :p

For YOUR wheeling enjoyment….DON’T weld it.

I think you’ll be breaking too much stuff and too often if you weld it. Which I think will lead to more frustration, anger and $$$$ over the long run. So, like tweaker said….keep it open (which will minimize damage), bomb it, and use the winch if you need to. You’ll be fine.

Honestly, with my eaton e-locker up front I engaged maybe 5 times the whole time on my Bday wheeling trip. Each one of those times it was engaged for maybe 30 seconds, just long enough to get through the obstacle.

[Nosmog73]

Nate said it best..

I think you’ll be breaking too much stuff and too often if you weld it. Which I think will lead to more frustration, anger and $$$$ over the long run. So, like tweaker said….keep it open (which will minimize damage), bomb it, and use the winch if you need to. You’ll be fine.

So you really feel like changing shit in the middle of the trail when your stub shafts start a breaking..which it turn might take out the locking hubs too..The chit isnt cheap and will run you more $$$$$$$$$ in the long run..

[jays68yak]

You guys just dont want me breaking the spares incase you need them. :p


So no one noticed the non neckdown inners with outters on pirate for $100?

[barbastard]

You guys just dont want me breaking the spares incase you need them. :p

Actually....now that you mention it...yes...that's it exactly.

So no one noticed the non neckdown inners with outters on pirate for $100?

no, but...I'll split that with someone though...I need a set of inners....going to swap to 35 spline outers here shortly.

[jays68yak]

Id be down but I already have a pair of non neck downs and neck downs.

[CaptainInsano]

yep broke the loc rit. Then welded it on the beach. Then a trip or two later broke one of the welds.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/album12/DSCN1213.sized.jpg

So you havnt heard about the jump?????
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/memorialpismo05/DSCN1021.jpg

I have heard of the jump and seen it, sick man!

HAHA That lockrite is just wrong! :thumb:

[UseYourBlinker]

Don't weld it ..you ain't got no $$$ to fix it,when ya break it.


OSH is hiring off Dublin Blvd. I got an app,but haven't filled it out yet. :roll:

Second job is gonna suck...

[jays68yak]

Don't weld it ..you ain't got no $$$ to fix it,when ya break it.


OSH is hiring off Dublin Blvd. I got an app,but haven't filled it out yet. :roll:

Second job is gonna suck...

haha OSH in san ramon is also hiring. Im thinking about applying there.

[UseYourBlinker]

We should do it...take it over,and bang all the chicks there.. :pimp2:

[jays68yak]

that was pretty much the only reason I would work there. SR got atleast one cute chick. Plus a discount on bolts would be nice.

[Twisted Whipz]

so whatcha gonna do to it. remember go big or go home. in your case more literal. will it be in one piece going home or many pieces. :poke:

[jays68yak]

so whatcha gonna do to it. remember go big or go home. in your case more literal. will it be in one piece going home or many pieces. :poke:

umm working on something else at the moment. :D If that happens then I wont have to do this welding thingy. For now Im leaving it. I dont need to add anything else to the to do list.

[Twisted Whipz]

you gonna go arb or elec-trac

[jays68yak]

neither :p

[Twisted Whipz]

ut oh. here he's goes again. bonzai built to the hilt. you're all gonna pay for it now. he's no longer limited with jumping and rolling over. he's gonna go for the tank trap and then rubicon. there goes the neighborhood.

[jays68yak]

ut oh. here he's goes again. bonzai built to the hilt. you're all gonna pay for it now. he's no longer limited with jumping and rolling over. he's gonna go for the tank trap and then rubicon. there goes the neighborhood.

I wanted to do tank this trip. :) Who knows feed me some beers and I might try it. I do have a winch.....

[Twisted Whipz]

I have beer

[jays68yak]

hmmm maybe I should mount that video camera under my rig.....

[crewcabroller]

I'm going to be running the trap in January and I'll help be a winch anchor or something, you should be able to do most of it. Your drivers side won't exist anymore but whatever...

[jays68yak]

I'm going to be running the trap in January and I'll help be a winch anchor or something, you should be able to do most of it. Your drivers side won't exist anymore but whatever...

So are you saying that I should wait for you......I do think it would be more fun come jan with some water in it. I need to buy a wet suit.... :uh oh:

[crewcabroller]

No you can run it on your own, it's just easier to hook to another truck then getting out the tree saver and all that. But if you want to run it around Thanksgiving go for it! And get some good video. I'll try and take care of that "issue" before your thanksgiving trip :pimp2:

[barbastard]

I’m down.

If I go to HH for turkey day (and not up to the sierra’s to play around) I’ll run it.

Still undecided as to where I’m going. Weather forecast isn’t calling for any snow (currently) over the next 15 days. HH is even supposed to be in the high 60’s to mid 70’s next week during the day and Truckee is only supposed to get down into the mid to high 20’s at night. What the hell???? I want some nasty weather to come….I WANT TO GO PLAY IN THE SNOW!!!!

[jays68yak]

if its still going to be somewhat dry im down to try it with an open front and a heavy foot. :D






BONZAI!

[Twisted Whipz]

you can do it. you still planning on bringing that chick with you?

[jays68yak]

you can do it. you still planning on bringing that chick with you?

no idea. Kinda thinking I do not want to deal with it, and just have a good time.

[Twisted Whipz]

thats my boy. free me up a seat so i can ride with the bonzai master. more flex equals less flop. have to try it

[jays68yak]

thats my boy. free me up a seat so i can ride with the bonzai master. more flex equals less flop. have to try it

more flex, more motor, more beef front axle, less body.


I guess that means I gotta get that seat in and the tube door. :unsure:

[Twisted Whipz]

the seat'd be nice. but i'm comfortable with nature so door is a distant second

[jays68yak]

Im not comfortable with you falling out or a rather large rock fighting for the seat.

[Twisted Whipz]

forgot about that, seemed to always hit on your side. but d60 shouldn't have that problem. so when you gonna post pics of the hydro-steer?

[jays68yak]

umm when i get around to installing it. :unsure:
The ram is sitting on my desk at home. I have everything but mounts and adapters for the hose to the ram. I ordered some adapters from mcmaster and should see them tomorrow.
Tonight I was going to try to get the passanger side axle shaft in and brakes hooked up. Trying to get the little things done during the week and then tackle the bigger more involved stuff over the weekend.