Offibial Rubicon Trip Information Thread

[crewcabroller]

General Information

When: August 22-25, 2007

Where: Rubicon Trail

Camping Information

Well, it's camping. Your on a trail that is 20+ miles long and you will camp where we stop. August should not be too cold, last time it was September and way cold at night, ask Kevin. So, just in case, bring tent heaters :) .

Typically we will drive in to the Soup Kitchen and camp there, then on to Buck Island and camp. Then drive out of buck to rubicon springs and then back to buck to camp again. Then out through Soup and then to the dam. So count on 5 days and 4 nights with absolutely no facilities. Bring places to poo too, no pooing in the woods unless you want to be filmed and posted on pbb while doing it ;) .

Current list of who is attending:

-willyswanter
-jays68yak
-bggrnchvy
-captaininsano
-k5ls1
-burbanfreek
-ryanb
-burt4x4
-barbastard
-chvyhs
-kpanza


Maybe:

-nosmog73
-cracker
-iceman

Feel free to update me on if your going or not and I'll add/subract you from the lists. Just reply here with a yes/no.

Directions

If you want to look up your directions, go here:

Click me for google maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=6498+Pony+Express+Trail,+Pollock+Pines,+CA+95726 )

That is directions to the safeway in Pollock Pines. We will meet there in the parking lot at a predetermined time and once everyone shows we will head out to the trail. Time to be determined later.

FYI: Anyone heading up 99 to the 50, take the Grant Line Rd. exit and take that NE and contine on White Rock Rd. and it takes you to 50. Knocks an easy hour off of the drive, much faster.

From the Safeway we will head East on 50 until we get to the Ice House Rd./Crystal Basin exit. We will take that and head up Ice House for approx. 28 miles and then make a right onto Loon Lake Rd. We will follow this for 4 miles across 2 dams and end up at the Spillway where we will leave the tow rigs for those of us that have them and get read to head out. From there it's all trail.

Scenery doesn't get any better guys.


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[jays68yak]

Yes. Im going damnapit

How early do we want to meet at safeway? Im asking for you socal folks that have a longer drive. Although your more then welcome to come up here and crash then head out in the am.

[crewcabroller]

I believe we met at 11am last time correct? That worked really well for Ken and I. Earlier is fine for me as well, I could always start the night before and sleep somewhere and then head on up if you want to get an earlier start.

[bggrnchvy]

Im going, I needs to go beat my rig into submission, better start now.

[Nosmog73]

Was not trying to jinx myself but I have the time off for this already and am planning on it and if you want to stay here I have room to be able to leave early.. :2thumbs:

[CaptainInsano]

I'm in.

[Cracker]

I'm a tentative yes. I have no idea how lenient my preceptors will be.

[k5LS2]

Can I come?? Do you think my truck will make it? :pain:

[Shaggy]

God dammit. I would love to, and I could get the time off to go easy, but I don't think my truck is up to it reliability-wise. I'm not about to inflict a possibily unreliable rig on the group, so I'll skip it. I'll be there in spirit.

[crewcabroller]

Oh come on, if you got all your bolts tight and your crossmembers fully welded you will be fine. The con isn't that difficult nowadays, just take the bypasses.

[jays68yak]

Shaggster you should come. Its not bad at all. If your rig is A ok for BF then I would say BRING IT! :2thumbs:

[Hoss]

Yes


with rig not sure

but yes 100 percent

[crewcabroller]

Mike you should see them now. You had HTML turned off in your profile, it has to be on to see the pics. I edited your profile for you.

FYI: Anyone who can't see the pics, go to your profile, yes you have to click profile twice, and click the box that says Always allow HTML.

[Burt4x4]

You think I could bring my truck camper with me? hehehehe I guess I'll have to buy me a sm. tent errr I could sleep in my K5 hmmm
Oh ya... I'm IN!
Can't wait to get video of me shittin in the woods posted on the internet! :blink:
SQEEEL BOY SQEEEL :chaz: :unsure:

:burt:

[jays68yak]

I gots to make me a dumper.

[Red Chevy Girl]

I will be there! :beer:

[chvyhs]

Put me down as a maybe. I'm doing everything I can to be ready. My work schedule is conflicting but I will try to make things work. The first 3 weeks in August are open for me but the fourth week things get busy again. Atleast I'll have plenty of time to get my F Four ready.

As far as being too cold. GET A BETTER SLEEPING BAG! I was fine back in Sep 04 sleeping in nothing but my bag. The fresh air won't hurt you.

How do you spell relief?
R-U-B-I-C-O-N

[PaloAltoK5]

I REALLY want to go, and I know my rig will be ready and capable....BUT the baby is due first week of August....which means I won't be able to make it...I'll be on diaper duty!!

[crewcabroller]

By the way you know that most of the trail has been flattened out right?
It's not the chalenge it used to be. :pimp2:

It's never really been a challenge, for me it's about the scenery and the relaxation. I love the isolation and quietness with the occasionaly hard bonus line.

Hell I made it through the entire thing with a completely ripped out rear suspension :p

[chvyhs]

It's never really been a challenge, for me it's about the scenery and the relaxation. I love the isolation and quietness with the occasionaly hard bonus line.

I'm not even planning on going all the way to the springs. I want to just stay back at Buck Island Lake and fish/relax.

[barbastard]

Where's the love man....you know I'll be there!!!! Count me in 100%.

Only question I have is I thought it was a wednesday thru saturday trip (ie 3 nights not 4). Was I mistaken?

[jays68yak]

Yeah Nate that is what I was planning with an extra day incase someones 4 link comes apart. :flipoff2: But I dont care as long as we go. If its another day so be it. I just need to make sure Im not working that sunday.

[Burt4x4]

Ya it was 3 nights Wed to Saturday, Saturday drive home day to get away from the weekend crowed (provided we can get OFF the trail before the weekend rush :unsure: )
:burt:

[crewcabroller]

So how are you planning on 3 days? Drive all the way to buck the 1st day, drive to the springs, the 2nd day and back to buck, then all the way back out on the 3rd day? Thats going to be loooooooong days.

I was hoping for a tuesday through saturday or weds. through sunday trip myself :uh oh:

[bggrnchvy]

I like the longer trip plan as well, more time away and a slower pace for comfort and those of us pesky sheetmetal liking guys :thumb:

[crewcabroller]

I guess I should revise myself.

The trail can easily be done in 3 days. Wheel in to buck, camp, wheel out of buck to rubicon springs, wheel back to buck, camp, then out to the tow rigs.

But, the problem lies in time. We won't realisticly get to the spillway before 1-2pm if we meet at 11 like last time. We won't get there till 10 or 11 if we meet at 9. So, that doesn't leave a ton of daylight to get to buck which is a long ass ways down the trail.

We could do a wheel in to soup, camp, wheel to buck, camp, wheel out of buck to the springs and back and camp, then back out to the tow rigs and not stop for fun spots on the way out. But theres alot of little optional stuff that some of us would like to play on on the way in.

[jays68yak]

I say we plan to just go and whatever happens happens. Who says we have to stop wheeling once its dark? That dude that fell out of his truck was night wheeling at night. I wanna do some of that. Night wheel that is. Id like to not fall out of my truck if possible.

[crewcabroller]

I'm down to night wheel, just don't break cause I aint down with fixin at night :p But you know me, I'll jump right in.

I'd really like to go past buck this time to rubicon springs and hit up the bridge again. It's a photo spot.

[Cracker]

Would 5 gallons of extra fuel be sufficient? Is someone that's going going to have an air compressor that's good enough to fill my tires?

[crewcabroller]

Ryan and Kevin have power tanks and kyle has a compressor as well as I. Mines slow and ugly, but it gets the job done :p

[jays68yak]

Im stressing the fuel thing. 12 gallon cell+454+heavy foot= no gas
Going to bring atleast 5 gallon extra.

I also just mounted a co2 tank tonight so Ill have at least that.

[Burt4x4]

I also have a powertank and a 37gal tank :p

Why meet/start so late..I say meet at the dam at 8am...what you young punks scared to start your day at 4am? I thought you guys were hardcore???pffft :unsure: :argue: :p :p :p :p

[CaptainInsano]

Im stressing the fuel thing. 12 gallon cell+454+heavy foot= no gas
Going to bring atleast 5 gallon extra.

I also just mounted a co2 tank tonight so Ill have at least that.

you only have 12 gallons???? :uh oh:


Anyone else have onboard welder? :D I'll remember to bring my damn helmut this time.

[CaptainInsano]

I'm down to night wheel, just don't break cause I aint down with fixin at night :p But you know me, I'll jump right in.

I'd really like to go past buck this time to rubicon springs and hit up the bridge again. It's a photo spot.

I love night wheelin! Never get to use my lights. :(

[jays68yak]

Im stressing the fuel thing. 12 gallon cell+454+heavy foot= no gas
Going to bring atleast 5 gallon extra.

I also just mounted a co2 tank tonight so Ill have at least that.

you only have 12 gallons???? :uh oh:


Anyone else have onboard welder? :D I'll remember to bring my damn helmut this time.

Yeah the cell is full of foam. I guess I could pull some out and see how much more I can get in it.

[crewcabroller]

I also have a powertank and a 37gal tank :p

Why meet/start so late..I say meet at the dam at 8am...what you young punks scared to start your day at 4am? I thought you guys were hardcore???pffft :unsure: :argue: :p :p :p :p

Uh, it takes me 6 hours to get there buddy.

As far as fuel, thats your fault, I carry 42 gallons :p

[jays68yak]

I also have a powertank and a 37gal tank :p

Why meet/start so late..I say meet at the dam at 8am...what you young punks scared to start your day at 4am? I thought you guys were hardcore???pffft :unsure: :argue: :p :p :p :p

Uh, it takes me 6 hours to get there buddy.

As far as fuel, thats your fault, I carry 42 gallons :p

So all I need is a siphon. :flipoff2:

[bggrnchvy]

Ryan and Kevin have power tanks and kyle has a compressor as well as I. Mines slow and ugly, but it gets the job done :p

Kyle also has an aluminum 20lb C02 bottle sitting in the garage he's putting in the truck soon :blink:

Im with Geoff though, how much extra fuel is enough? He and I both have 26 gallon tanks, obviously consumption rate on mine is a little bit higher Id think, but still comparable. Anybody have an estimate on what they've used on a similiar Rubicon trip so we have a clue?

[Nosmog73]

Make that one more Co2 bottle ..I have a 20lb'er full and ready to go..
Plus I have a air compressor..that is moblie if need be..(remember that one that fred aka drunk guy won at bf05..the one MV50 that everyone was after..) :2thumbs:

[Burt4x4]

I also have a powertank and a 37gal tank :p

Why meet/start so late..I say meet at the dam at 8am...what you young punks scared to start your day at 4am? I thought you guys were hardcore???pffft :unsure: :argue: :p :p :p :p

Uh, it takes me 6 hours to get there buddy.

As far as fuel, thats your fault, I carry 42 gallons :p
Sounds like you need to getup at 2am then :p Just pretend yer going duck hunting :argue: :pimp2:
:burt:

[crewcabroller]

Hmm, up at 2, drive 6 hours to get to safeway at 8, drive 1-2 more hours and get to spillway, drive 6 hours into the trail... Gonna have to buy some crack.

As far as the fuel, were driving the same distance no matter what, doesn't matter if we take 3 days or 4 days, fuel should be the same...

But, for you guys that are actually driving to the trail, bring extra fuel. It's a good 40 miles from the trail head to a gas station. So your talking 10 miles of highway, 30 miles of steep mountain grades, 50-60 miles of trail, then 30 miles of downhill grades, then 10 more miles of highway before you ever see a gas station.

Bring fuel.

[Burt4x4]

I ment meet at the damn at 8am..I guess you'll have to leave at midnight now :p AND get a bigger bag of crack! hahahahahaha
Just messin :burt:
Don't really care when we start or finnish as long as I am THERE all the rest is just whatever... :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

[k5LS2]

Mr. Payne, Your gonna have to pick me up on the way, I gots no trailer :( And my donor trailer is occupado :uh oh:

[jays68yak]

Uhaul??? Or drive it there?

[Burt4x4]

Build a rack that fits in the back and over the cab of your dully and put your truggy in the back of your dully :2thumbs: hehehehe

[barbastard]

I’ve got a CO2 tank as well. So at this point I wouldn’t be concerned abut onboard air. :rolleyes:

The fuel concern is about the only issue I see so far with running propane….my dilemma is a little more complicated than you folks. I’ve got two large tanks (I think 12 gallon…but maybe 10) and one small one (I think 10 gallon…but maybe 8), but by that time I should have another large tank. But, hopefully Darren is going to come because I think he’s got like 6 tanks now so between the two of us we should be ok. I might have to bring one extra just for this trip though….if I run out of fuel there is no “siphoning” to get me more.

As far as onboard welders go, I don’t have one…yet. Been eyeing one for the past couple years though. I’ll have to see how $$$ goes, but I may have it by the trip. Maybe it’ll be my B-day present to myself. :beer:

I’m taking the 21st off as well so I can get ready for this trip so whatever time we need to meet on the 22nd is fine by me. I personally would like to get back home that Saturday so I can have Sunday to clean up, unpack and chill before going back to work on Monday. I’m with Burt…the earlier we can meet on the 22nd the better. Oh…and that’s a big 10-4 on night wheeling….FINALLY give me a chance to use all the fancy rock lights I have. :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

errr guess that would mean that I would have to install my rock lights. :uh oh:

[Burt4x4]

Hey nate you can use thoes lil 1lb tanks as a back up...should keep your rig running for at least 5min. hahahaha

[IceMan]

I’ve got a CO2 tank as well. So at this point I wouldn’t be concerned abut onboard air. :rolleyes:

The fuel concern is about the only issue I see so far with running propane….my dilemma is a little more complicated than you folks. I’ve got two large tanks (I think 12 gallon…but maybe 10) and one small one (I think 10 gallon…but maybe 8), but by that time I should have another large tank. But, hopefully Darren is going to come because I think he’s got like 6 tanks now so between the two of us we should be ok. I might have to bring one extra just for this trip though….if I run out of fuel there is no “siphoning” to get me more.

As far as onboard welders go, I don’t have one…yet. Been eyeing one for the past couple years though. I’ll have to see how $$$ goes, but I may have it by the trip. Maybe it’ll be my B-day present to myself. :beer:

I’m taking the 21st off as well so I can get ready for this trip so whatever time we need to meet on the 22nd is fine by me. I personally would like to get back home that Saturday so I can have Sunday to clean up, unpack and chill before going back to work on Monday. I’m with Burt…the earlier we can meet on the 22nd the better. Oh…and that’s a big 10-4 on night wheeling….FINALLY give me a chance to use all the fancy rock lights I have. :2thumbs:

Bring some BBQ tanks with you.
I have a tall one if you want. I also have a propane tank you can borrow, it's empty but you can fill it up.
It's 36"x18"diameter

[jays68yak]

I’ve got a CO2 tank as well. So at this point I wouldn’t be concerned abut onboard air. :rolleyes:

The fuel concern is about the only issue I see so far with running propane….my dilemma is a little more complicated than you folks. I’ve got two large tanks (I think 12 gallon…but maybe 10) and one small one (I think 10 gallon…but maybe 8), but by that time I should have another large tank. But, hopefully Darren is going to come because I think he’s got like 6 tanks now so between the two of us we should be ok. I might have to bring one extra just for this trip though….if I run out of fuel there is no “siphoning” to get me more.

As far as onboard welders go, I don’t have one…yet. Been eyeing one for the past couple years though. I’ll have to see how $$$ goes, but I may have it by the trip. Maybe it’ll be my B-day present to myself. :beer:

I’m taking the 21st off as well so I can get ready for this trip so whatever time we need to meet on the 22nd is fine by me. I personally would like to get back home that Saturday so I can have Sunday to clean up, unpack and chill before going back to work on Monday. I’m with Burt…the earlier we can meet on the 22nd the better. Oh…and that’s a big 10-4 on night wheeling….FINALLY give me a chance to use all the fancy rock lights I have. :2thumbs:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/zip/319200670.html :p

[barbastard]

Thanks Jay....but I think that tank is a little too big for me. It would probably take up the whole bed (what's left of it) of the rig.

Thanks anyways though.... :rolleyes:

[jays68yak]

just think of the fire tho. That would be nice and warm. :flipoff2:

[crewcabroller]

Fixed the google maps link .

[UseYourBlinker]

I'm going to be there,and Jeremy is driving his rig. :blink:

[jays68yak]

I'm going to be there,and Jeremy is driving his rig. :blink:

FYI Please leave my bbq alone. I beg of you. :flipoff2:

[UseYourBlinker]

You called bluff! Damn...I had you guy's for second.

Plus I would never go,because you have to shit in can's. The bumper dumper ain't my thang.
:unsure:

[jays68yak]

I brought up a small problem to Kevin the other day.......All 3 of our rigs have been rebuilt and dont have a receiver hitch type setup anymore. :blink: Time to redo the bumper dumper or find a victim to stick it on their rig.

[Cracker]

I brought up a small problem to Kevin the other day.......All 3 of our rigs have been rebuilt and dont have a receiver hitch type setup anymore. :blink: Time to redo the bumper dumper or find a victim to stick it on their rig.

I have a hitch.... :pain:

No saying that I won't drive off with ya'll riding..... :2thumbs:

[PowerWagonsintheSand]

I'm in if You all will still let me come along. See some of you at pismo this week!javascript:emoticon(':beer:')

[chvyhs]

I don't think I'll have my buggy together soon enough. I might be mountain biking it with Esteban. :blink:

[kpanza]

Rich, you can ride with me...that is, if these Nor Cal guys let me go! :D Count me in for this one...love to do the Con again. If you guys decide on a meeting time, please keep me posted. I think I may travel up from Orange County to Fresno the night before and crash at my cousin's house if it's gonna be early...that would cut about 5 hours off my trip. Last time, we drove the whole thing all in one day, and it was brutal...

I'm not much for night wheeling, I kind of like sitting around the campfire and relaxing, but I'll go with the flow. I like the idea of stretching it out over as many days as we can also, as it shouldn't be a race... :thumb:

[chvyhs]

Kieth,
Are we using my dually and trailer?

[kpanza]

Rich,

I was planning on using the Stupid Duty to tow with, and was thinking about buying a new trailer...I think your poor tires are just not heavy duty enough to haul my heavy pig? I know I blew one out last time coming back from Rubicon, and we both know how many I have gone through in the past year or two! :( But if we could figure out something to get those tires to last longer, that would be nice! And if you have the urge to use the Dodge, I wouldn't say no...I'll just help you with the fuel and whatever else. Otherwise the Stupid Duty is mine to use (make use of my payments!)...still under miles on the lease.

Let's talk about it...I'm up for whatever. I'd like to bring my float tube this time and catch those damn trout I couldn't get to at Buck Island last time!

[jays68yak]

Hmm that would be fun to get out to the island...hmmm

[crewcabroller]

r/c boats to pull us around the lake yakkers? :p

[jays68yak]

Well I was thinking kayak. I dont think I can afford a RC boat big enough to pull me around.

[barbastard]

Pussies...just swim it....geez....it's not that far. :flipoff2:

[Cracker]

Rope to Rocco's tail? :p

[chvyhs]

We'll talk some more Kieth.

I tried swimming to Buck Island last time we were there. It was too damn cold. I'm bringing my wetsuit, snorkeling gear, and spear gun this time. I may even bring a SCUBA tank. Then I can pick my dinner for the evening. If I have room I'll bring my RC boat, but it's not pulling any of you.

[bggrnchvy]

Hmmm, I do have a 2 man inflatable raft and oars that doesn't take up much room :blink:

[FRIZZLEFRY]

I dont know exactly how much fuel I carry in my smashed 31 gallon tank but I can drive from Camino where we leave the tow rigs,up the 50 to Icehouse,all the way up Icehouse to the the trailhead (either Gatekeeper or Wentworth),spend four days on the trail,and come out on the other side and drive into Tahoe on one tank.

I always bring 5 gallons of extra fuel but I have never needed it :toothless:

[chvyhs]

Sorry to say but, I'm completely out of this trip. :( I have to work that week.

How late in the year can you drive through Rubicon?

[kpanza]

That sucks Rich! Well, remember last time we did it in late September, and it snowed the day before...I would imagine that on a normal snow year, October would be last month without re-creating a Donner party trip? :D

You thinking of going at a different time?

[crewcabroller]

I'll go again whenever you want to go Rich :2thumbs:

[barbastard]

I've gone in mid October and it was a snowfest.

[jays68yak]

Is it August yet?

[kpanza]

So, do we have the exact dates and meeting times set yet? A few of us were talking about the trip yesterday and we'll probably all caravan up together...just wondered what the plans were as far as meeting, and also what day we plan on leaving?

[barbastard]

So, do we have the exact dates and meeting times set yet? A few of us were talking about the trip yesterday and we'll probably all caravan up together...just wondered what the plans were as far as meeting, and also what day we plan on leaving?

I know we’re planning on the 22nd being the first day on the trail. Then it sounds like most people are heading home on the 25th.

As far as where we’re meeting at….I know there’ll be a sizeable caravan going up there from the bay area and I think we were going to meet up with everyone else in Placerville at some grocery store. Anyone else….does that sound right?

While we’re talking about questions…..I’ve got one….what’s the plan for camping? Where are we going to camp each night. I’ve got some friends coming in Friday night and I need to let them know where we’re at.

Where are you caravaning from?

[kpanza]

We'll be coming from So Cal (Orange County). We should have a decent group caravanning up. It's just that it's about a 12 hour drive, so we were hoping to maybe split it up...we also talked about possibly getting there a day early and relaxing first.

I believe we're meeting at the Safeway in Pollock Pines again...good meeting spot, worked for us last time.

[barbastard]

We'll be coming from So Cal (Orange County). We should have a decent group caravanning up. It's just that it's about a 12 hour drive, so we were hoping to maybe split it up...we also talked about possibly getting there a day early and relaxing first.

I believe we're meeting at the Safeway in Pollock Pines again...good meeting spot, worked for us last time.

Yeah...that's a long drive especially towing. When we drove to Moab last october I know I reached my limit of drive time towing at about 10-11 hours. After that my mind became mush and I started seeing the care bears run across the road. To drive 12 hours AND then wheel the rest of the day....not much fun there.

I'm taking the 21st off to get ready for the trip and load up and do misc. shit (also to get drunk that night...to start celebrating my 30th bday on the 22nd)...If I had my shit done I might be down to meet you guys up at the con or around it the that evening (the 21st).

[kpanza]

Well, I'll keep all of you posted...hopefully we can get the plans all ironed out soon! About a month to go...damn, my list of shit to do is still too long! :mad:

[surpip]

Hell I made it through the entire thing with a completely ripped out rear suspension :p

with a few stops of course :p



But, for you guys that are actually driving to the trail, bring extra fuel. It's a good 40 miles from the trail head to a gas station. So your talking 10 miles of highway, 30 miles of steep mountain grades, 50-60 miles of trail, then 30 miles of downhill grades, then 10 more miles of highway before you ever see a gas station.


AFAIK there is gas at the ice house store, but its been a while.
if there is, its silly expinsive.

I am so jealous, i wish i could go :(

[IceMan]

Hell I made it through the entire thing with a completely ripped out rear suspension :p

with a few stops of course :p



But, for you guys that are actually driving to the trail, bring extra fuel. It's a good 40 miles from the trail head to a gas station. So your talking 10 miles of highway, 30 miles of steep mountain grades, 50-60 miles of trail, then 30 miles of downhill grades, then 10 more miles of highway before you ever see a gas station.


AFAIK there is gas at the ice house store, but its been a while.
if there is, its silly expinsive.

I am so jealous, i wish i could go :(

There is and it is silly expensive :roll:

[Burt4x4]

I am not going to make this trip now :uh oh:
Really pissed about not being able to carry a bag of poo around with me for a few days :p
hahhahaa

Naa I decided to hang with the wife and kids so i'll have to catch up with ya'all some other trip. This is not a good year for me money wise anyway.

So the score remains Con = 1 - Burt = 0
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album41/rubicon5.jpg
Me limping out of the gate keeper in front wheel drive.....


Have a good as time as you can without me :p and take lots of pics!!

[the beeter]

that sucks,
why not bring wife and kids with?? or did she go with you last time where every one made it to the first rock and blew up? im just guessin by the stories ive heard of that trip

[kpanza]

I remember that! And that pic brings it all back fresh...man, we had a tough time as a group at the Gatekeeper and just beyond... :crazy: A couple of miles later, I blew the high pressure line on my steering...had to reverse and run the trail back with no assist, what a joy.

So, do we have an accurate list of the guys still going (or at least still planning on going)??

Exact meeting dates/times/places?

[IceMan]

That Steve is a pic to go in the archives for history, the gatekeeper is no more. :pain:

[zcarczar]

I will be there whether I have work off or not. :flipoff2: Im guessing 10 gallons of gas will be enough for my samurai, I really don't have the room for extra gas, im gonna be packing light as is.

[Burt4x4]

I remember that! And that pic brings it all back fresh...man, we had a tough time as a group at the Gatekeeper and just beyond... :crazy: A couple of miles later, I blew the high pressure line on my steering...had to reverse and run the trail back with no assist, what a joy.

Ya that weekend didn't quite turn out the way we all planed :blink: I remember Chaz being black from dirt trying to battery weld his steering box back to his frame :blink: :argue:
hahahhaa Good Times
:burt:

[CaptainInsano]

That Steve is a pic to go in the archives for history, the gatekeeper is no more. :pain:

thats not the line I woulda taken :flipoff2:




Well, I am not going either. :( Wish I could go, and not for the reason of wanting to wheel the Con or bags of poo.

[dbreid]

Is there a good spot to leave tow rigs and trailers? I have read on pirate that there are some business owners who will charge for storage (fine with me), but I am not sure which is the best.

[kpanza]

Parking area behind the Loon Lake dam...we should have it all to ourselves during the week most likely...room for many trucks with trailers there...

[barbastard]

So I’ve got a couple questions here:

1.What’s the deal with fires? Are we allowed to have them? Do we have to get a permit? Are there restrictions on them? What about firewood?
2.How about BBQ’s…can we have them or are we stuck using propane stoves?
3.Who is confirmed as going as of right now? Maybe Jason can make an updated sticky/post for those of us that are still going as a register list….rather than hunting through this damn post to find out who’s a “yes” vs “no”.
4.What’s the scoop with the caravan? I’ll be ready to leave Pleasant Hill EARLY Wednesday morning so I’m down for whatever that day.

[k5LS2]

Nate, If were gonna meet up at safeway at 10 am, I suggest any one south of Pac Fab meet me and Jaysak there pre 5:15 am We would then head north to the Bario where you live to meet up. Mabey you and Jaysak can choose a meetup place along the way :2thumbs:

[barbastard]

Nate, If were gonna meet up at safeway at 10 am, I suggest any one south of Pac Fab meet me and Jaysak there pre 5:15 am We would then head north to the Bario where you live to meet up. Mabey you and Jaysak can choose a meetup place along the way :2thumbs:

Ok, that sounds decent.

You guys could meet me at the strip mall parking lot right off 680 at the Monument exit. It’s right down the road from my house and it’s RIGHT off the freeway. Could meet up and then just slam right back on the freeway. If you’re leaving your place at 5:15am towing…you should be up my way around 7:30-8am???? Either way that will work.

I don’t even know who else up my way, or who in general, is even going. I imagine you, Yakker and RB will be caravanning up together?

[IceMan]

So I’ve got a couple questions here:

1.What’s the deal with fires? Are we allowed to have them? Do we have to get a permit? Are there restrictions on them? What about firewood?
2.How about BBQ’s…can we have them or are we stuck using propane stoves?
3.Who is confirmed as going as of right now? Maybe Jason can make an updated sticky/post for those of us that are still going as a register list….rather than hunting through this damn post to find out who’s a “yes” vs “no”.
4.What’s the scoop with the caravan? I’ll be ready to leave Pleasant Hill EARLY Wednesday morning so I’m down for whatever that day.

This time of the year they bad fires, you will need to bring a propane stove for any kind of heat or cooking.
You will see the signs as you're driving up there.

[kpanza]

Yeah, no campfires allowed...or charcoal fired bbqs. You must have a permit and use propane gas stoves/bbqs. Only one permit is technically needed for a group, but they're easy to get and free, so might as well have one for yourself. When we went in 2004, they had fire restrictions, but it snowed the day before we went and was damn cold, so we "may" have had something resembling a campfire that one night, just to try to get warm :unsure: ...but with as dry as it's been, we just can't risk it. BIG fines...and way dangerous.

Yeah, an updated list of who's going would be nice...I believe most of us So Cal-ers will be coming up Tuesday and camping out at Loon or thereabouts...we'll meet the rest of the group Wednesday at Loon, unless we get real antsy and drive in to Soup Kitchen and set up camp! ha,ha

[barbastard]

Yeah, no campfires allowed...or charcoal fired bbqs. You must have a permit and use propane gas stoves/bbqs.

That’s pretty much what I thought. Guess I’ll be stocking up on the little green cans of propane then and I’ll plan on bringing plenty of warm clothes (and some “painless”) just in case it gets a little cold at night.

I’m going to start another post right now and we can use that as a “who is attending” list until something better gets put together.

[stunnin650]

i think it time to see what i have left from my backpacking days

[jays68yak]

Jerry I have a propane stove. I should have a small grill that we might be able to rig on it.

Nate-Kohls parking lot? Is that going to be safe enough for Jerry to park his truck there?

Jerry you cool with meeting us up by nate so that we dont have to stop twice?

[stunnin650]

i might try to get to my parents and have them give me a ride to the bernal offramp quick on and off

[jays68yak]

If thats the case it might be best to do it at jack in a crack so we arnt on the side of the road with 3 trucks and trailers.

[stunnin650]

iof that will work for ya great if not i will get out to p hill

[jays68yak]

that would be cool cuz its off and on. Your parents requires light time, that will only slow us down.....must wheel con.

[barbastard]

Jerry I have a propane stove. I should have a small grill that we might be able to rig on it.

Nate-Kohls parking lot? Is that going to be safe enough for Jerry to park his truck there?

Jerry you cool with meeting us up by nate so that we dont have to stop twice?

If someone could bring a propane BBQ grill that would be cool.

Yes, the Kohls lot...that's the one. And No....I wouldn't recomend for Jerry to park his truck there. But...I happen to live about 1 mile from there and he could leave his truck at my place. Or, we meet him further up towards his way somewhere.

[DancesWithHoods]

Im in!

[barbastard]

Im in!

Who the fuck are you???? :rolleyes:

I didn't think you knew how to operate a keyboard you retard..... :flipoff2:

[the beeter]

i will b collecting alluminum and plastic from every one again since i made a killing from bf., so drink up :beer: no glass please
will b at dam tew afternoon i hope, see ya there :D

[Cracker]

i will b collecting alluminum and plastic from every one again since i made a killing from bf., so drink up :beer: no glass please
will b at dam tew afternoon i hope, see ya there :D

Are you sticking to your hardcore self and driving the K5?

[kpanza]

Hell no, his rig is riding up on Max's big rig... :2thumbs: I think me and Craig are the only ones who were dumb enough to actually drive our rigs all the way to the Con and back! (And I won't do it again!) :D

[Cracker]

Hell no, his rig is riding up on Max's big rig... :2thumbs: I think me and Craig are the only ones who were dumb enough to actually drive our rigs all the way to the Con and back! (And I won't do it again!) :D

I did it to Moab in the rain....won't do that again. :p

[bggrnchvy]

So the Pac Fab group is leaving Morgan hill at about 5am.

You guys are planning to meet in Fremont at 680 and Mission here:
Map of Mc Donald's:510-656-9375 42800 Mission Blvd Fremont, CA 94539, US (http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?address=42800%20Mission%20Blvd&city=Fremont&state=CA&zipcode=94539&country=US&title=%3cspan%20style%3d%22margin%2dbottom%3a0px%3 b%22%20class%3d%22adr%22%3e%3cb%20class%3d%22fn%20 org%22%3eMc%20Donald%27s%3a%3c%2fb%3e%3cspan%20sty le%3d%22margin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22n owrap%20phnum%20tel%20work%22%3e510%2d656%2d9375%3 c%2fspan%3e%20%3cspan%20style%3d%22margin%2dbottom %3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22street%2daddress%22%3e42 800%20Mission%20Blvd%3c%2fspan%3e%20%3cspan%20styl e%3d%22display%3ainline%3bmargin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b %22%20class%3d%22locality%22%3eFremont%3c%2fspan%3 e%2c%20%3cspan%20style%3d%22display%3ainline%3bmar gin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22region%22%3e CA%3c%2fspan%3e%20%3cspan%20style%3d%22display%3ai nline%3bmargin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22p ostal%2dcode%22%3e94539%3c%2fspan%3e%2c%20%20%3csp an%20style%3d%22display%3ainline%3bmargin%2dbottom %3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22country%2dname%22%3eUS%3 c%2fspan%3e%3c%2fspan%3e&cid=lfmaplink2&name=Mc%20Donald%27s&dtype=s)
At about 5:45 to meet up with myself and Ryan B.

We should meet Nate and Jerry at the Kohl's just off the Monument Exit of 680 around 7:30?

That should put us, barring any hold ups whatsoever, at the Safeway about 10am.

Sound right?

[k5LS2]

Thats the plan :2thumbs: I caint wait :beer:

[bggrnchvy]

Most excellent :2thumbs: I'm stoked :banger:

Now just to finish the day here so I can go home, build a toilet, fix a leaky seal, connect some my fogs and reattach the front bumper...oh and pack.

[jays68yak]

Im home and just got out of the shower. I need to go shopping, pack, finish doing laundry, fix my rc car, and wake up early.

[stunnin650]

jasons picking me up on the bernal onramp in pleasanton, i will look like a bum hitching a ride