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jays68yak

10-17-2005, 01:41 AM

Gotta start a new build up thread since the other one is lost. :(
Last weekend I finished narrowing the front. Then this weekend I pulled it all off.

Day 6 there was a SBC inbetween the frame rails.
And on the 7th day there was a BBC 454 in there.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1613.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1615.sized.jpg
Oh yeah and its got TBI on it. :D
Since I had the motor out I decided to put in the cross member that Esteban made for his blazer. I bought it when he parted it out. Thankfully it clears a BBC also.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1616.sized.jpg

More to follow as I get more done. :)

k5LS2

10-17-2005, 02:22 AM

Oh boy :rolleyes: Just wait for pismo :crazy:

Esteban86K5

10-17-2005, 02:30 AM

That's a PURTY crossmember!!! :flipoff2:

jays68yak

10-17-2005, 02:36 AM

That's a PURTY crossmember!!! :flipoff2:

I gave you credit... :flipoff2:

Esteban86K5

10-17-2005, 02:37 AM

I know, THANKS!!! :beer:

KidJethro

10-17-2005, 02:48 AM

Dammit.....I want one of those x-members. Estebahn...wanna make me one?

Esteban86K5

10-17-2005, 02:50 AM

UMMMMM, you can probably make a PURDIERRRRR one. :roll:

jays68yak

10-17-2005, 02:52 AM

Dammit.....I want one of those x-members. Estebahn...wanna make me one?

:p

Guess that means I need to weld the nuts on this one.

Ryan B.

10-17-2005, 04:15 AM

whoa what the hell!? bonzai-rat? :blink: :banger:

hm.. i better get my rig ready for pismo pretty quick too! :eyebrows:
hey jay, ul need nos.
:p :devil3:

jays68yak

10-17-2005, 04:40 AM

landing gear check.

Nosmog73

10-17-2005, 04:42 AM

Dude I put money on you busting that 208 with in a year bonzi.. :2thumbs:

jays68yak

10-17-2005, 04:43 AM

I have a 241 sitting on the floor of the garage. And then another one for spares. :2thumbs: :flipoff2:

Ryan B.

10-17-2005, 04:44 AM

How about the full length headers, 3" and one chambers! :D :pimp1:

got any pics of the narrowed front?

jays68yak

10-17-2005, 04:51 AM

Just ordered some shorty chevelle headers, should have them in a few days.

I dont have any pics of the complete narrow front right now. Ill get some once its back together.

Liftedassdodge

10-17-2005, 06:41 AM

and my big block is back in the cheby!

Nosmog73

10-17-2005, 07:19 AM

and my big block is back in the cheby!

Who did it for you...???
Jay knows what I mean...lol :2thumbs:

KidJethro

10-17-2005, 08:33 AM

UMMMMM, you can probably make a PURDIERRRRR one. :roll:

Yeah.....but I don't want to. :flipoff2: Dammit

jays68yak

10-18-2005, 02:19 AM

Ok sold a bunch of crap over the last 2 weeks. Should beable to order the crossover, high steer, and hydro assit parts late this week or early next week.
:D :D :D

jays68yak

10-18-2005, 05:18 PM

Just got me headers in. Plan to stop on the way home a get a bung for the 02 sensor. :)

jays68yak

10-18-2005, 10:38 PM

hmm a vendor on pirate just pmed me....$615 for the elocker.....hmmm wonder if I can swing that. :blink:

KidJethro

10-19-2005, 12:17 AM

barbastard

10-19-2005, 01:21 AM

Are you gonna drive the thing on the street? I can't imagine you would...didn't you get a green sticker for it? Anyways, why go with a selectable locker? Why not just a plain ole Detroit? Would be a bit simpler, and less movign parts/wires is always good on a truck thats almost a truggy. :unsure:

IMO a selectable locker up front is the only way to go. No matter what type of rig you have (except maybe a mud only truck). It's just so much easier to drive and not to mention SOOO much easier on parts. Besides, you don't need the front locker engaged the whole time...

jays68yak

10-19-2005, 02:02 AM

no green sticker yet. Going to have on tho. Doesnt mean I wont drive it on the street. :blink:

You both have valid points...with a detroit if I want it unlocked I could just undo the lockouts.

Im going to have to think about a detroit now.....

jays68yak

10-19-2005, 03:30 AM

ok might as well toss up some pics of the hedders.....installed....
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1633.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1630.sized.jpg

Burt4x4

10-19-2005, 03:14 PM

Sniff sniff..what's that burning smell... :p

Looking good DOOOD :beer: :beer:

k5LS2

10-20-2005, 01:36 AM

Paper exhaust gaskets, Huh?? Non locking bolts?? Good luck with that :flipoff2:
Other than that Your gonna love that FI next time you flop! (the truck might stay running!!) :2thumbs:

KidJethro

10-20-2005, 01:41 AM

Hmmm, my q-jet runs on its side.... :blink:

Not very well though. lol :D

barbastard

10-20-2005, 01:56 AM

I haven't had any problems with my q-jet since the dude down south rebuilt mine.

FI is overated.... :flipoff2:

Burt4x4

10-20-2005, 02:01 PM

Who cares about running at angles...THROTTLE RESPONCE !!! :pimp2:
MPFI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 02:53 PM

I haven't had any problems with my q-jet since the dude down south rebuilt mine.

FI is overated.... :flipoff2:

well my carb sucked monkey oversized balls. I now no longer own a carb at all. In anyway. I dont even have one in my stash of parts. I even thinned out my TBI stash, which is kinda scary as I dont have any spares anymore. Other then a computer. Im kinda dreaming but I would like to get this motor started this weekend. :pimp2:

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 02:54 PM

Who cares about running at angles...THROTTLE RESPONCE !!! :pimp2:
MPFI RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

True MPFI would be killer. BUT I couldnt beat the deal I got on this setup. I was planning on doing the TBI swap on the small block but this fell into my lap so..........

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 05:06 PM

just ordered up the hydro assist parts:
Your order summary:

Item #: 51ARC004
Description: Buyers 1/4in. F NPSM x 1/4in. M NPTF 90 Degree Swivel Adapter
Item Price: $1.99
Quantity: 4
Item Total: $7.96

Item #: 51ASC046
Description: Buyers 1/4in. F NPSM x 3/8in. M NPTF Straight Swivel Adapter
Item Price: $1.99
Quantity: 2
Item Total: $3.98

Item #: 992001
Description: Lion 2500 PSI Heavy-Duty Tie Rod Hydraulic Cylinder — 2in. Bore,
6in. Stroke, Model# 20TL04-112
Item Price: $54.99
Quantity: 1
Item Total: $54.99

Item #: 50042
Description: Hytec Hydraulic Hose 1/4in. Dia., 42in. Length, 4000 PSI rated
Item Price: $6.99
Quantity: 2
Item Total: $13.98

Product Total: $80.91
Sales Tax: $0.00
Shipping Charges: $16.63
Order Total: $97.54

barbastard

10-20-2005, 05:19 PM

Ok....this sounds funny...but.....Is a 6" stroke going to be long enough? I thought they need to be 8". That's what mine is.

Did you measure the amount of travel your steering has lock to lock?

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 05:32 PM

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 06:37 PM

Esteban86K5

10-20-2005, 06:38 PM

MIne was only 5in. I had to limit my 8" ram when i went to high steer. You have less throw in the high steer position.

barbastard

10-20-2005, 06:39 PM

that's what I thought.

with a 6" your steering would be pretty limited....glad this was caught before you had it installed!!!

Esteban86K5

10-20-2005, 06:43 PM

Jay, i thought you were going High steer? :unsure:

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 06:46 PM

I am....So now I dont know.......

Nates got the same steering setup I will be using other then the ram. So now Im way lost.

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 06:50 PM

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150777&page=1&pp=10&highlight=HYDRO+ASSIST

All the ones on there are not running highsteer. Well other then friz. Not sure what length frizs ram is. But everyone else in that post, with out highsteer, is 8inchs. So maybe it is different with high steer???

Maybe Ill just leave it as is and see how it works. If I need to order a 8 incher then my loss. :crazy:

Esteban86K5

10-20-2005, 06:54 PM

Like you said, everyone on there is NOT running high steer. I used all 8" of mine when it was in the normal position. But when i put it up higher I lost a few inches in throw.

I was looking at nate's pics and it may be different in the behind the axle setup. But I don't see how it could be. Nate have you actually measured yours?

Jay go outside and take a quick measurement. If you have your arms already it would be easy. If you don't just eye ball it.

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 06:56 PM

ok, but im at work and my blazer is at home so what am I measuring? Or do you just want me to go outside for a bit? :p

Ill try to check tonight once im home.

Esteban86K5

10-20-2005, 06:57 PM

Just go outside cause it really stinks in here and i think it may be you. :flipoff2:

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 07:02 PM

Just go outside cause it really stinks in here and i think it may be you. :flipoff2:

Oh man you should of smelt the one earlier... :chaz: I about killed myself. Good thing im in a warehouse by myself.

Esteban86K5

10-20-2005, 07:03 PM

barbastard

10-20-2005, 08:07 PM

Yeah, I’ve got an 8 incher and it works fine. :mrhumpy: :flipoff2:

Seriously though, it’s the same ram I had when the tierod was in the stock location and it works fine in the current set up too. It’s actually about 7 5/8” of throw on it. Basically I just adjusted my steering stops to coincide with the ram’s full compression and full extension and it’s fine. What you DO NOT want is for the ram to have more throw than the steering stops will allow….that’s bad, mmmmmkay. I would be VERY surprised if the 6” throw does not seriously limit the amount of steering you have. But, I’ve been wrong more than once today so who the fuck knows. You can really tailor it to your application by playing with the steering stops, the location of the ram, and screwing the heim joints on the ram in or out some.

PaloAltoK5

10-20-2005, 09:00 PM

No I just ordered whatever whats his name had posted. :crazy: My thinking was I didnt want to get one that was going to be too long and end up breaking my knuckles.
I dunno... :argue: I just wanted to buy something. :unsure:

The 6 incher is what we use on the D44's I dunno about the d60's...but for ours it works Muy Bueno....

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 09:32 PM

ok order has been changed to 8in stroke. :2thumbs:

PaloAltoK5

10-20-2005, 09:52 PM

ok order has been changed to 8in stroke. :2thumbs:

Hehe...you said "stroke" :stroke: ....

PaloAltoK5

10-20-2005, 09:57 PM

Btw, check out the skid plate CaptainInsano has fab'd for the hydro steer...

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PICT1187.JPG
http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PICT1188.JPG
http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PICT1185.JPG
http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PICT1186.JPG

Beefy...

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 09:58 PM

I shouldnt have to worry about that since mine will be above the axle. :p

PaloAltoK5

10-20-2005, 10:02 PM

I should have to worry about that since mine will be above the axle. :p
Hi-Jack on:

Then you can drive over you roomates truck too....

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/P1010193.JPG

Hi-Jack off.

barbastard

10-20-2005, 10:20 PM

Btw, check out the skid plate CaptainInsano has fab'd for the hydro steer...

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PICT1188.JPG

Beefy...

Where's captain insano's front d-shaft???? :flipoff2:

Cool guard though...wish I would've built one of those on my D44 when I had the ram in the same place.

barbastard

10-20-2005, 10:22 PM

Then you can drive over you roomates truck too....

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/P1010193.JPG

Hi-Jack off.

Hey...that looks fun....Jay...can I try that ON your truck......oh wait....crap....been there done that!!!

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 10:24 PM

haha

No alcohol was consumed during the making of that picture. But before....................oh man and after.................

:flipoff2: :beer:

barbastard

10-20-2005, 10:28 PM

haha

No alcohol was consumed during the making of that picture. But before....................oh man and after.................

:flipoff2: :beer:

Yeah man…somebody got me wasted that night!!!! :beer:

When I figure out who….there’s gonna be some ass kicking going on. :bash:

Good times….good times….
:drunk:

Man…I’m jones’n to go wheeling right now. Maybe I can squeeze in a quick day trip to HH next weekend :eyebrows: ….I need to go get in double low and crawl around on something…….

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 10:29 PM

theres always the parking lot to be crawled.....

barbastard

10-20-2005, 10:31 PM

Don't you have a van I could test my suspension flex out on???

jays68yak

10-20-2005, 10:32 PM

cough i dont personally. But I know where one is parked......most of the time.....but he is acctually using it as transportation to wand from work now. :blink: Yeah hes working.

:rotfl:

PaloAltoK5

10-20-2005, 11:35 PM

Where's captain insano's front d-shaft???? :flipoff2:

Cool guard though...wish I would've built one of those on my D44 when I had the ram in the same place.

Dunno, besides it's one ugly d-shaft, home made square one! :blink: :unsure:
http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/Pic-Begin%20the%20surgery.JPG
http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/PIc-Finished%20Yoke.JPG

That reminds me, I need to get a pic of that thing installed....works pretty awsome though, not even as noisy as you'd think...

jays68yak

10-21-2005, 03:09 AM

ok messed with the front springs a bit tonight. Added a 3 degree shim. Removed the overload that turns out to be a rancho piece, guessing a add a leaf lift spring. Also removed an extra spring that was in there. Used the correct u bolts and not the 44 ones. Flexs way better then how they were before hand. Before I could bearly move it myself. Now it moves pretty well. If it wasnt dark I would be out there with the cherry picker flexin the fucker out.

http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1634.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1635.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1636.sized.jpg

:flipoff2: I know I need to cut the ubolts and pins down. :flipoff2:

Esteban86K5

10-21-2005, 04:10 PM

It's about time someone built a NICE front hanger. That looks nice. what did you use for it? :2thumbs:

jays68yak

10-21-2005, 04:17 PM

Thanks..
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1454.sized.jpg
Its a piece of 2x3x1/4 wall that I welded some 3/16 plate on to the sides. This way I ended up with the 3" inside needed for the spring to fit in. It also allowed me to drop the mount down 2", for a good 1" of lift. 3/16 might be a bit on the small side but its what I could get my hands on for free. I then capped the other two ends and on the front brought it down a bit more to add some strenght to the 3/16 sides. I drilled and tapped the 2x3 so that it can all be bolted on. I want to test it out then Ill most likly weld it on also. On the inside of the mount I added some 2x1/4 flat so that its also bolted to the frame.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1595.sized.jpg
There are 7 bolts holding each one on at this point. I think it should hold up ok. It will be Bonzai tested. :2thumbs:

Esteban86K5

10-21-2005, 04:25 PM

Yeah that does look nice. That is similar to what i want to build. Mine will be incorporated into a crossmember/ bumper too.

GOOD JOB!!! :beer:

jays68yak

10-21-2005, 04:32 PM

I was thinking about tieing them together with a tube or something. Just not sure yet.

jays68yak

10-22-2005, 01:12 AM

got bored.

http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1639.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1637.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1640.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1642.sized.jpg

CaptainInsano

10-22-2005, 04:21 AM

ok did some quick researching on CK5. Seems I screwed up and should of gotten the 8 incher. Tried calling northern to get it fixed but they havnt processed the order yet. :uh oh: So Ill have to try back tomorrow.

Everyone who gets a 8" always seems to have to limit them, the 6 inch is working fine for me. I only lost about 1/4 inch movement on each side.

CaptainInsano

10-22-2005, 04:26 AM

jays68yak

10-24-2005, 05:30 PM

weekend update.
Saturday I pretty much spent a good part of the day stairing at the wiring. When I pulled the motor I had to cut a few wires. I coulded get them around the accs with out removing all the accs. So I solder all those back together. Also fixed some wires that were messed up. Traced a bunch of wires to figure out what they did. The connector that goes to the fuse block is the same from the 88 suburban and the blazer. So Im going to try to do as little splicing as possible and just plug it in. There are maybe 7-8 wires that I need to power or figure out what they are since im going this route. There are a few things that pass through this connector that I wont be using. Like the oil pressure to the guages since Im running an aftermarket gauge. Same with the water temp. So I just need to get a battery in the truck to figure out whats hot and when.
Also got the fuel pump mounted. I ended up getting a stock replacement inline pump for a TBI system. A bit more then I wanted to spend but I didnt have an option. I mounted it next to the tank in the bed, hopefully it will work there. Also need to get this powered off of the fuel pump relay. Basicly just need to figure out what wire it is, and run it. Also got the fuel lines from the TBI unit connected to the rest of the system. Its the stock hard line/braided line combo down to the frame. Then it ties in with some short pieces of rubber line, to the stock hard line on the frame.
Sunday I got the front sheetmetal back on and the radiator all in and plumbed. Also got one of the batteries mounted. Sounds like I might of gotten a lot done but I still have a lot to get done.

Talking with Trevor from WFO about all the steering parts. Man does that stuff add up QUICKLY!. :blink: Oh well its needed and his is the best that Ive seen. Besides I think half of the people here run his shit anyways.

Idealy I would like to get the motor fired up this week. Well see how that goes tho.

jays68yak

10-24-2005, 05:35 PM

[quote=jays68yak]got bored.

alright I am sold, I am putting the 52s on when I get home from Hawaii. :2thumbs:

in case you would like to copy or make something like my mounts. Heres a quick drawing.

http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=D60&id=spring_mount

Nosmog73

10-24-2005, 05:52 PM

Man does that stuff add up QUICKLY!

HA HA ...no kidding..

jays68yak

10-24-2005, 05:54 PM

how to double your budget build up, buy a 60.

how to triple your budget build up, buy crossover, highsteer, hydroassist for said 60.

:crazy:

Liftedassdodge

10-24-2005, 08:57 PM

Stay away from the van!

jays68yak

10-24-2005, 08:59 PM

Stay away from the van!
Id still like to see jerry drive to the top in the sammi.

jays68yak

10-26-2005, 03:01 AM

Update of some kind.

Wiring is almost done. Need to get the fuel pump working and then run a wire to the tranny kickdown. I was able to crank it over. :D YAY that does work.

Need to figure out what Im going to do about this oil cooler thing. Prob just get that part so that I dont have to deal with the cooler.

Figured I would add some pics tho. :)

http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1645.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1646.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1647.sized.jpg
Here you can see how much space this motor does take up. The wiring is just in a testing stage right now. I want to get it fired up and make sure its running before I tape it all up.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1648.sized.jpg

jays68yak

10-26-2005, 03:57 PM

Im so excited! Steering parts from WFO should be in today. Im counting down the minutes. :D Xmas in Oct. YAY!

:beer:

Ryan B.

10-26-2005, 04:34 PM

Steez! :pimp1: :beer:

jays68yak

10-27-2005, 03:00 PM

and for your daily update.....we have some Bling care of WFO.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1650.sized.jpg

Im pretty sure that Im going to have some clearance issues with the oil pan.

barbastard

10-27-2005, 03:04 PM

Im pretty sure that Im going to have some clearance issues with the oil pan.

Yeah, I did….and that was with a 350 (smaller pan than a 454) and the axle in stock location. Ended up having to move the axle about 1”-2” forward. In your case….sounds like it’s time to find a low profile oil pan.

jays68yak

10-27-2005, 03:13 PM

yeah my axle is already that far forward. I think Ill compair this pan to the one my dad has laying around his house and see if they differ at all. I guess I could always modify that one so that I wont have issues. Or I can just let this one self clearance. I hope nothings in the way inside. :unsure:

I think when I do the shocks, Im only going to go for about 3-4 inches or up travel. That should help with the clearance also.

k5krushert1

10-27-2005, 04:18 PM

that thing has come a longggggggggggggg way from what it was thats for sure. going from the budget build to this is a cool improvement.i guess with patience and times things come out like you want them to.youre next run will be alot more fun due to not having to worry about parts breaking nearly as often.good work :beer:

k5krushert1

10-27-2005, 04:25 PM

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE dont jump it again :flipoff2:

Twisted Whipz

10-28-2005, 03:58 AM

are you kidding. jump it and show your self it can be landed and be totally bad ass. SHOTGUN!!

jays68yak

10-28-2005, 04:06 AM

cough no jumping.......................only flying. :D

k5LS2

10-28-2005, 04:39 AM

Two words ,, Bump cans, (or at least bump stops) :2thumbs:

Twisted Whipz

10-28-2005, 04:45 AM

it's not about how high you go but how far you go. if the front hadn't stopped it, we could have bounced along quite a bit further. try try again

jays68yak

10-28-2005, 04:51 AM

shocks bottomed out 2 inches before the bump stops even hit.

crewcabroller

10-28-2005, 04:54 AM

Two words ,, Bump cans, (or at least bump stops) :2thumbs:

http://www.scbd.org/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album78/IMG_1500.sized.jpg

Mine will be on Sunday :D

jays68yak

10-28-2005, 05:05 AM

Two words ,, Bump cans, (or at least bump stops) :2thumbs:

http://www.scbd.org/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album78/IMG_1500.sized.jpg

Mine will be on Sunday :D

yeah how much were those?

barbastard

10-28-2005, 03:31 PM

Wait….”bump cans”….what the hell is this???

http://www.scbd.org/phpBB2/modules/gallery/albums/album78/IMG_1500.sized.jpg

I thought we were talking about something else!!!! :D
I’ve got some bump cans at home but I fail to see how those would help when jumping a vehicle!!! :mrhumpy:

CaptainInsano

10-29-2005, 01:43 AM

jays68yak

10-29-2005, 02:16 AM

neg arc. Im going to do the shocks so that I only have 3-4 inches of uptravel. These springs drop more then they go up.

not to mention having a big block in there.

Which by the way runs now. I guess if you hook up the power wire for the injectors it runs. :crazy:

k5LS2

10-29-2005, 04:52 AM

WWanter, thos are pretty sic, Are they gas and poly, or spring and oil? Thos and some down travel limiting straps will let you fly level and be bustin big like Robby Gordon jumping the crowds in glamis!!!

Jayson Hows it run? Have you reset the base timing? do you have exhaust on it? Congrats at making it go! :2thumbs:

jays68yak

10-31-2005, 02:42 PM

Jayson Hows it run? Have you reset the base timing? do you have exhaust on it? Congrats at making it go! :2thumbs:

I have done nothing but idle it right now. I just wanted to make sure it started up before I got the harness all back together. No exhaust, just headers. Might see if I have time to rig some exhaust this week. Doubt it as I need to get it movable for this weekend. I was either drunk or too tired to do anything to it over the weekend. So this week I need to get the rest of the steering on, install the 2wd box and pitman, put the harness back together, install it, swap radiators, fill everything, put the 60 shafts in, after I change ujoints, get all the 60 brakes and what not on and bleed. Guess Ill be working into the darkness all week. Altho daylight savings should hopefully help a bit.

jays68yak

11-10-2005, 03:59 PM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
4. Make and install exhaust
5. Install 02 sensor
6. Install hydro assist and plum
7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
9. Make front driveshaft
10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
11. Finish up front sheetmetal
12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
13. Install passanger seat
14. Fab passanger tube door
15.

Burt4x4

11-10-2005, 06:36 PM

You-Can-Do-It :beer: :beer: :beer:

barbastard

11-10-2005, 10:19 PM

items 10-14 don't need to be completed to run it at HH.

Come on....quit making work for yourself man!!!

If you need a hand I'll try and help you as much as I can bro. Just let me know.

Now get your ass off the couch and get to work!!!!!

Twisted Whipz

11-11-2005, 01:12 AM

some times it's hard to find the motivation. but remeber this. Bonzai got it's name cause it never let off when it was focused on making a great showing. do it for your fans. do it for the glory. do it cause chicks dig it.

jays68yak

11-11-2005, 01:18 AM

haha :2thumbs:

Twisted Whipz

11-11-2005, 01:48 PM

Motivation Yo

jays68yak

11-14-2005, 02:22 AM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

DONE 1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
DONE 4. Make and install exhaust
SHIT I FORGOT THIS 5. Install 02 sensor
6. Install hydro assist and plum
DONE 7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
DRIVERS SIDE DONE 8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
9. Make front driveshaft
10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
11. Finish up front sheetmetal
12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
13. Install passanger seat
14. Fab passanger tube door
15.

UseYourBlinker

11-14-2005, 02:27 AM

If you need a hand...I'm down the street. :2thumbs:

jays68yak

11-14-2005, 02:30 AM

hmmm I think these beadlocked would be sweet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/chevy-ford-dodge-dana-60-14-bolt-aluminum-wheels_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43956QQitemZ8014 916163QQrdZ1

jays68yak

11-15-2005, 04:30 PM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

DONE 1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
DONE 4. Make and install exhaust
SHIT I FORGOT THIS 5. Install 02 sensor
6. Install hydro assist and plum
DONE 7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
DONE 8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
9. Make front driveshaft
10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
11. Finish up front sheetmetal
12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
13. Install passanger seat
14. Fab passanger tube door
15.

jays68yak

11-16-2005, 02:06 AM

Hydro mount?????
Its not done yet. Just had an idea and I wanted to try it out. It turns lock to lock. Although my steering stops arent really correct(ones missing). I will pick some new bolts up and then redo the tierod mount.
The housing mount will get some more bracing. Atleast one more tube on the front, between the two that are already there. Ill prob also see about adding some in the back.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1677.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1678.sized.jpg

jays68yak

11-18-2005, 03:06 AM

I "think" its done now.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1679.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1680.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1681.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1682.sized.jpg

UseYourBlinker

11-18-2005, 03:18 AM

Pimp bro... :pimp2:

Saturday nite is good :pimp1:

k5LS2

11-18-2005, 04:29 AM

:2thumbs: did occ build that? :pimp1:

gr8pumkin

11-18-2005, 04:54 AM

Hummm My 60 is telling me to do the swap :uh oh: Mikey likes what I see.

Ryan B.

11-18-2005, 06:03 AM

lookin good dude.. Git er done. :rolleyes:

Burt4x4

11-18-2005, 01:59 PM

SWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :beer:

jays68yak

11-20-2005, 01:29 AM

jays68yak

11-21-2005, 03:08 PM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

DONE 1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
DONE 2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
F IT DONT NEED IT YET 3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
DONE 4. Make and install exhaust
SHIT I FORGOT THIS 5. Install 02 sensor
6. Install hydro assist and plum
DONE 7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
DONE 8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
DONE 9. Make front driveshaft
DONE, ghetto but its done 10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
DONE 11. Finish up front sheetmetal
F THE HOOD 12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
DONE 13. Install passanger seat
HALF DONE 14. Fab passanger tube door
DONE :2thumbs: 15. Get it green stickered.
16. Install grease fittings on steering parts.
17. Grease them
18. Fill front diff.
19. Install cotter pins in all steering parts
20. Clean out the back.
21. Brakes and oil change on the DD/Tow rig.

crewcabroller

11-21-2005, 06:17 PM

Well I was ready to go but decided yesterday to cut off my rear shocks and cut apart my bed so I have alot of work to do today :blink:

jays68yak

11-21-2005, 06:30 PM

Well I was ready to go but decided yesterday to cut off my rear shocks and cut apart my bed so I have alot of work to do today :blink:

Then what are you doing sitting on the computer???? I decided to paint mine at the last minute yesterday. Lets just say that if I launch is, you will see me in the air. :D

crewcabroller

11-21-2005, 06:36 PM

You need a dukes of hazard dixie air horn :D

jays68yak

11-21-2005, 06:37 PM

You need a dukes of hazard dixie air horn :D

nosomg has already said that he is going to paint it orange one night. Good thing I dont have doors or I would prob end up with an "01" on them. Yeah so its not orange. :)

crewcabroller

11-21-2005, 06:39 PM

Are you going to reapply the flames? :unsure: :)

jays68yak

11-21-2005, 06:44 PM

Are you going to reapply the flames? :unsure: :)

I would like to do some tribals on the front sheet metal but thats not going to happen for a bit. Too much real work to be done before hand.

And I wanted to have the dixie horn on at BF but ran out of time/money and totally forgot about it till now.

Twisted Whipz

11-22-2005, 01:27 AM

so is this turkey-day trip about height, distance, flopping, or driving on 2 wheels. perhaps Bonzai has something special planed.

jays68yak

11-22-2005, 03:46 AM

no jumping since I have no uptravel. :unsure:

jays68yak

11-22-2005, 03:52 AM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

DONE 1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
DONE 2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
F IT DONT NEED IT YET 3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
DONE 4. Make and install exhaust
SHIT I FORGOT THIS 5. Install 02 sensor
DONE 6. Install hydro assist and plum
DONE 7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
DONE 8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
DONE 9. Make front driveshaft
DONE, ghetto but its done 10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
DONE 11. Finish up front sheetmetal
F THE HOOD 12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
DONE 13. Install passanger seat
HALF DONE 14. Fab passanger tube door
DONE :2thumbs: 15. Get it green stickered.
DONE16. Install grease fittings on steering parts.
17. Grease them
18. Fill front diff.
DONE 19. Install cotter pins in all steering parts
20. Clean out the back.
21. Brakes and oil change on the DD/Tow rig.

UseYourBlinker

11-22-2005, 05:52 AM

GitRDone....

jays68yak

11-23-2005, 02:53 PM

Ok I need a motovation list to get me going since I only have two weeks to get this beast ready.

DONE 1. Install rebuilt tranny into tow rig. :crazy:
DONE 2. Drill hole in fire wall for ecm wires, mount ecm
F IT DONT NEED IT YET 3. Mount diag wires for ecm, and check engine light.
DONE 4. Make and install exhaust
SHIT I FORGOT THIS 5. Install 02 sensor
DONE 6. Install hydro assist and plum
DONE 7. Change axle shaft u joints, install shafts
DONE 8. Hook up front brakes, bleed
DONE 9. Make front driveshaft
DONE, ghetto but its done 10. Install front shock, and make mount for them
DONE 11. Finish up front sheetmetal
F THE HOOD 12. Skin hood, make new frame for hood, cut hood, install hood
DONE 13. Install passanger seat
HALF DONE 14. Fab passanger tube door
DONE :2thumbs: 15. Get it green stickered.
DONE16. Install grease fittings on steering parts.
17. Grease them
18. Fill front diff.
DONE 19. Install cotter pins in all steering parts
20. Clean out the back.
21. Brakes and oil change on the DD/Tow rig.
DONE 22. Fab and then Mount second battery tray.
DONE 23. Install second battery and wire up winch.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 02:55 AM

cant....let.....this....die....

So I worked on it a bit today. I cut off the sides of the bumper so that I could redo the bends in them. They got kinked on the first few outtings and have just been getting worse. The plan is to brace them so that it doesnt happen again. I got to thinking about making a stinger also. I couldnt really figure one out in my head that I liked so I just started bending and this is what I came up with.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1696.sized.jpg
Not sure I like it but its growing on me. Im already thinking about tubing the front out but I think that might wait until I get a cage in there. That way I can run the bars to the cage.

I also pulled the core support forward about 2 inches. Its nice having a winch, I just hooked it to the top and pulled it forward. Then made some new brackets for the tops of the fenders. I want to brace the core support to the bumper so that if one of the fenders comes undo agian then it wont go into the fan. I think Ill also be heading to pick in pull shortly to get some electric fans.

Is it just me or does it look like this ----> :(

UseYourBlinker

12-05-2005, 03:28 AM

Sweet...Hit me up for the junkyard run. :pimp2:

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 03:32 AM

Not sure when Ill beable to do it. Got a full load of crap to do over the next week.

Twisted Whipz

12-05-2005, 04:15 AM

it looks like it's about to kiss something now. but the design seems very functional. so you gonna keep it a three seater?

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 04:24 AM

prob not. I might down the road once I have a cage but for now I dont really like it there.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 04:07 PM

Nice….glad to see you are correcting your problems with the core support. I’ll check it out further when I come down to pick up my camcorder. I want to see how the rest of your’s is coming together…..need ideas for mine!!!!

Let me know when you are going to go to the junkyard…I’d be down to go as well. Although…December is a pretty screwed month for me…so I might not be able to make it until January.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 04:54 PM

Yeah the only prob I have is that the Jan run is like the first weekend. So time is limited. I might check ebay to see what I can find cheap.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 04:59 PM

Understood.

I might be able to fit it in this Saturday after Eric and I check out that auction in Vallejo. Let me see what's going on at the homefront and I'll post up later this week. I know we were going to get a tree this weekend so that might fubar everything.

FYI...I see electric fans on ebay all the time for cheap.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 05:19 PM

This is what my week is like..
I need to pull my second np241 apart, swap in the correct input from the other one that I tore down over the weekend. Then put it all back together.
Install said 241 in place of the 208. I am doing this for a few reasons....mainly cuz I sold the 208 to motovate me to get the 241 with a lower gear in the blazer.

I have 4 cages that need to be built, a 5th is being added next week. I dont have to have them done this week but I need to work on them. Lucky 4 of them are for the same bike.

Continue thinning out the garage. Ive got some crap that I just dont need.

Help/get mike to work on his truck so that one day it will be done. I guess I just need to hold his hand. I feel bad cuz its never going to go anywhere if someone doesnt kick his ass into gear.

Saturday morning Im waiting for mike to come clean out my truck of his crap.
Saturday 4ish I have to go to my neices dance thingy...I think its in SF.

Sunday Im helping my sister move stuff to her cabin.

If anything it looks like its going to be next weekend before I can got hunting.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 05:23 PM

Next weekend I’m out….I’ll be in SC/SJ all weekend.

Following weekend it’s xmas…so…um yeah…I’m out.

Following weekend it’s new years….don’t know where I’ll be or what I’ll be doing…but I know it’s going to involve a lot of booze and no junkyards…so I’m out that weekend as well.

How’s January 7th or 8th look???
:(

barbastard

12-05-2005, 05:26 PM

Who needs junkyards?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93-94-95-FORD-TAURUS-SABLE-3-8-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN_W0QQitemZ8019065191QQcategoryZ33600QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 05:28 PM

JAN 5-8 is the next HH run. Im planning on making that. So that weekend is out and I need to have everything done by then.

swap tcases
install shims on front axle
find and install fans.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 05:29 PM

JAN 5-8 is the next HH run.

Hmmmm...that's good to know. I'll see if I can make that.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 05:29 PM

Who needs junkyards?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93-94-95-FORD-TAURUS-SABLE-3-8-ELECTRIC-COOLING-FAN_W0QQitemZ8019065191QQcategoryZ33600QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Umm cuz you can get them for like $15. But I doesnt look like Ill have the time.....Thanks for the link Im watching it now.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 05:30 PM

JAN 5-8 is the next HH run.

Hmmmm...that's good to know. I'll see if I can make that.

Its in the events forum. :poke:

I think the plan is to run tank again after it hopefully has rained a bit.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 05:36 PM

I may be out on this trip….I REFUSE to drive my rig to go wheel it anymore. It just simply isn’t safe or practical :help2: :shake: :shocked2: . I need to line up a trailer…..which is in the works as we speak.

However…if all goes well….I won’t have it for 6 to 8 weeks…..or however long it took shaggy to get his. :D

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 05:38 PM

barbastard

12-05-2005, 05:44 PM

Rent= HELL NO. At $180 to rent (for 3 days) a POS SCARY uhaul trailer that is undersized and only has surge brakes…that aint going to happen ever again.

Borrow= Ok…that would work. But I don’t know too many people that even have anything that would work to tow my junk.

But…we shall see. Maybe I’ll find one to borrow for the trip, or maybe I’ll just come down as a copilot. We shall see grasshopper…..

Nosmog73

12-05-2005, 07:23 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-Dodge-Stratus-Radiator-Cooling-Fan_W0QQitemZ8020391197QQcategoryZ33600QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/14-Perma-Cool-High-Performance-Electric-Fans_W0QQitemZ8020311122QQcategoryZ33600QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-Camaro-electric-cooling-fans-82-92-iroc-rs-z28_W0QQitemZ8020298854QQcategoryZ33600QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 07:38 PM

I dunno. I think I want to go with the 2 speed taurus fans. They are somewhat easy to find in the junk yard(now that I say this I wont beable to find them), there is a relay kit on ebay for them that will turn the low on at one temp and the high on at another temp.
Ive had experince with the taurus fans and man they SUCK (as in good).
Ive also had some experince with the camaro fans that are listed in your third link. I blew two of them, could of been how old they were or that they were going out but they didnt impress me. They also dont have a built in shroud.

What time do you think you can come saturday? Im half tempted to wake up and be at picknpull by 8am saturday to see if I can find them.

Nosmog73

12-05-2005, 07:44 PM

How close is the Pick n pull to you...I can wake you up Very early if need be..

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 07:58 PM

Newark is the closest one to me. If its easier for you to head out here once you get off then go for it. Worse case, if its too early, I can just sleep I bit more. :2thumbs:

Nosmog73

12-05-2005, 08:34 PM

I hope you are getting a Higher amp alt..Those Fans Draw a LOT of amps.. :2thumbs:

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 08:46 PM

I hope you are getting a Higher amp alt..Those Fans Draw a LOT of amps.. :2thumbs:

I know. The main issue is the amps getting them kicked over. I emailed the dude that is selling the relay on ebay and he said it would work. I think im going to try and mount 2 of them on the rad, but only hook up one for the time being.

Nosmog73

12-05-2005, 08:56 PM

I have a primary 16" on the Eng side dead center then 2-12"ers one one top corner other on bottom corner oposite side front the 16 is first and the other 2 are for those 100 degree wheeling days if the 16 isnt cooling enough I have the higher amps to run them.. :2thumbs:

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 09:02 PM

dang, I am wondering if I will have room for 2 and you are running 3. :blink:
I figure that this has the AC alt which should put out a lil bit more, if that doesnt cut it then Ill have to upgrade. I was also thinking of putting a second alt on and have that one charge the second batt. I could prob fit it where the smog pump once lived.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 10:10 PM

What time do you think you can come saturday? Im half tempted to wake up and be at picknpull by 8am saturday to see if I can find them.

Well, Eric and I are supposed to hit up the auction in Vallejo which starts at 8:30 or 9am and lasts till like 12 or 1pm. However, I’d also be down to try and fit PnP trip in there somehow or instead of the auction. Let me see what I’ve (I mean my wife) has planned for me later on that day….that’ll really dictate how much time I’ve got to screw around with that day.

I wouldn’t mind picking up one of those fans myself, plus I could use some stock 14BFF ubolts, driveshaft parts and useless junk only found at PnP. Oh yeah….and a morning full of laughing my ass off with you dumbshits.

There's also the Richmond PnP to go to as well.....it's about 30 minutes from my house (and about 3 minutes from my office). They usually have decent stuff there....but...I'd be down for any of them.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 10:18 PM

im thinking about using one of two of these (depending on how many fans)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8019735231&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Like I was just telling Mike, nosmog, If I go to the pnp in newark then I also have the options of 2-3 in hayward, and or 2 in san jose. All depends on how much i want to drive. I have never been to the richmond one.

on another note someone was telling me that newark just like doubled thier truck stock.

I only have prob till the early afternoon before I have to be home.

barbastard

12-05-2005, 10:23 PM

ok, cool...then IF we go....we go to Newark.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 10:24 PM

Yeah Eric called about the auction thing this morning. Id like to go but need to get this fixed before hand. And if its not the rig then its those damn cages.

jays68yak

12-05-2005, 10:53 PM

some info...http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419347
Fixed the link for you... :2thumbs:

jays68yak

12-06-2005, 02:07 AM

Now that the camera has some batteries Ill show ya some more pics.
Built in beer holder on the front bumper. For those times when you are wrenching on it.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1711.sized.jpg
mmmm radiator its whats for dinner
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1713.sized.jpg
Tcase #1 apart awaiting 32 spline input and reassembly.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1714.sized.jpg
Tcase #2 apart awaiting to donate its 32 spline input.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1715.sized.jpg

PaloAltoK5

12-06-2005, 05:58 PM

You rock, haha...Love the beer holder!

I vote "Best Mod of 2005!!"

jays68yak

12-06-2005, 06:18 PM

You rock, haha...Love the beer holder!

I vote "Best Mod of 2005!!"
:beer:

Burt4x4

12-07-2005, 01:21 PM

Nice :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

CaptainInsano

12-07-2005, 05:26 PM

Nice attention to detail :thumb:

jays68yak

12-08-2005, 04:54 AM

YAY! tcase is back together. That was rather easy. I hope I did it right. :unsure:

jays68yak

12-15-2005, 04:49 AM

Damn it almost fell off the first page....
Scott and I were just talking about the clocking ring. Overall Im about 90% happy with it. The holes were not 100% correct, they work dont get me wrong. The 6 that go to the tcase you have to put in loose and tighten them all a bit at a time so that each one gets centered in the recess. The studs seemed to be a tad off so that it was hard to get the adapter on. A quick tap with the hammer on a few of them solved that problem. I had thought about making one myself but by the time you factor in the time to cut and drill it was easier and quicker just to order one up. I would order another one if I had the need.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1718.sized.jpg
In this picture you can kinda see the small amount that the studs were off.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1719.sized.jpg

gr8pumkin

12-15-2005, 05:00 AM

So you don't think the torque will be to much for the bolts?

jays68yak

12-15-2005, 05:06 AM

So you don't think the torque will be to much for the bolts?

What do you mean? Which bolts? The ones to the tcase cant really back out cuz what hole are they going to back out to? I mean the adapter hits it so that they cant come out. Plus I put locktight on them. The studs are also locktighted, and the nuts that go on them are nylonlock nuts. Im going to build a new xmember that will have a built in torque rod for the tcase. This whole year I havnt had a torque rod on the tcase and the 208 has been fine. Altho it prob would of helped in pismo when the adapter came off the tranny. But so would me have using the correct lenght bolts. :unsure:

jays68yak

12-21-2005, 04:59 AM

Ok got bored and realized the garage aint all that cold with the doors closed.
Started by trying to straighten out the top cover on an old drill press Jerry found in the dump. Still trying to figure out why they tossed it. Seems to work fine. Needs a bit of maintance but it still works. Plus its got a phase converter in it as far as I can tell, runs off of reg 110.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/random/DSCN1728_001.sized.jpg
Then I tossed my harbor freight pos tube notcher on it to see how the drill press worked. Did a good job IMO. Better then my little craftsman one. This is the start of my new tcase cross member. Going to run bushings on each end and tie into the frame. My plan is with the clocking ring and this new cross member I can stuff the tcase up into the floor of the cab and have a flat belly.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1729.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1730.sized.jpg
I guessed at the frame distance since it was dark and I just tossed the tape measure up there. :unsure: The crossmember itself is 1 1/4 sch 40 pipe, the holes were done with a 1 1/2 hole saw, and I had a few inches of 1 1/2 DOM laying around. Going to weld a washer to the DOM and the DOM to pipe. Then you can bolt it from the bottom.

gr8pumkin

12-21-2005, 05:13 AM

Looks good bro....

k5LS2

12-21-2005, 05:35 AM

:2thumbs:

CaptainInsano

12-21-2005, 07:12 AM

hehe nice holes. :thumb:

Twisted Whipz

12-21-2005, 01:56 PM

the hole is your home, are you too good for your home? why can't you make it even more clearanced and flip the assembly up side down /-o-\ ?

jays68yak

12-21-2005, 02:38 PM

1...I dont want to sit on a bar.
2...IIRC the 208/241s can only go onto the adapter one way.

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 06:12 AM

Well I was able to work on the blazer for a bit over the weekend. More busy working on motorcycles then anything else. Spent xmas day mounting the electric fan, and getting the blazer into the garage so that I can work on it when it rains. Got the fan to work, cleaned up and went to the movies with Eric and some of my roommates.
Yeah the blazer is a TIGHT fit into the garage with the 38s still on.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1731.sized.jpg
And now the fan mounting. Not the best nor the cleanest but my brain was hurting from thinking. Should be ok. I plan on putting a limiting strap on the motor so that it doesnt toruqe too bad.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1745.sized.jpg
This one needs to be cut down a bit still.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1746.sized.jpg
And then the wiring. I was able to get it so that I have either a low or a high switch for the fan. The far left switch is the high, the bolt in the center is holding the relay, and the far right switch is the low. I didnt want to run it off of a temp sensor all the time cuz if I go through water or mud I would like to beable to turn it off. I just need to remember to.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1744.sized.jpg

This weekend I plan on getting the tcases swapped along with the crossmember rebuilt and installed. This will prob take me forever to do cuz I see a lot of headaches in this. Id like to work on it this week after work but Im busy building cages for these damn bikes.

Nosmog73

12-27-2005, 06:52 AM

You could have still hooked the fan to go off...Just used a toggle to interupt the relay feed... :roll:

Liftedassdodge

12-27-2005, 08:19 AM

fucking blazer in the garage

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 01:46 PM

You could have still hooked the fan to go off...Just used a toggle to interupt the relay feed... :roll:

It was easier for me to do it via switches and have total control rather then go off a temp sensor. I watch the temp as it is so It shouldnt really be a prob. Im more worried about remembering to turn them off in the advent of water/mud.

k5LS2

12-27-2005, 02:15 PM

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 02:43 PM

or forget to turn them on :crazy: (me on rubicon) :unsure:

Oh mikey, I can get that POS early chevy youll never finish out of the garage for you!! :flipoff2: Then jayson can use the whole garage :2thumbs:

Dibs on the cab and front sheet metal. :flipoff2:

Oh and I was able to get the blazer, mikes truck, 2 of mikes bikes, 1 of our neighbors, and 1 customers bike into the garage. There isnt much room to move around now. :crazy:
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1747.sized.jpg

barbastard

12-27-2005, 04:18 PM

I’m going to wire mine up this week as well. I finally was able to test it yesterday and it works just fine. That damn thing moves a LOT of air on the high setting. I’m going to hook mine up to one 3 position switch instead of two switches. I’ll probably be giving you a call to ask you some questions about it.

Looks good though…..

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 04:20 PM

Might as well get some tech in this...

Nate do you plan on running a relay to kick it on?

barbastard

12-27-2005, 04:23 PM

Might as well get some tech in this...

Nate do you plan on running a relay to kick it on?

10-4

I'll make a rough wiring diagram, scan it and post it up later this week.

Liftedassdodge

12-27-2005, 05:25 PM

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 05:26 PM

Heres a quickie of what I did.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/bosch_relay.gif
Yeah I know its odd that Im switching the ground for the low speed but if I wasnt it would work right. Orginally I had it so that it was switching the low positive. Low worked when the metal piece of the dash was not screwed to the dash, but high didnt. Screw it to the dash and high worked but low didnt. :crazy: So I switched the low ground and it works fine.

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 05:26 PM

show em where you melted my fairing FAG! haha

I can burn it off if you would like? :flipoff2:

barbastard

12-27-2005, 05:32 PM

Damn dude...that's a nice diagram. What program did you use to do that? I was just going to draw one, scan it and then post up. Now you're making me look bad!!!!

jays68yak

12-27-2005, 05:35 PM

MS Paint Biatch! :flipoff2:

I started with this. http://www.ripper1.com/tech/wiring/bosch_relay.gif

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 03:38 AM

What ram did you use for your assist? Specs?

jays68yak

12-28-2005, 03:53 AM

2x8 from northern tool. Had to take about an inch out of the stroke IIRC. Basicly made a spacer out of delron and stuck it inside so that it wont extend to far.

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 04:44 AM

I've been looking at this one-
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122723330405&item=9-6645&catname=hydraulic

I can get all the fittings, hoses and the ram for under $90 from there. Just have to port and tap my box.

Whats the rod diameter on your ram? Got a link? Do you like how it works? Is it overly weak in one direction than the other?

I've had a couple people say to look for a ram with a .75" diamter rod rather than the 1" one that the surplus center ram has, because it'll the push/pull specs between the two different sizes is significant. This one is identicle to the first one, but has a .75 diameter rod-
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122723330405&item=9-4410-08&catname=hydraulic

Costs $38 more though. Any ideas on this? Which of those two rams should I go with?

The 1" one has SAE -4 ports, the .75" one has 3/8" NPT.

The 1" one is Push/Pull 5290 / 2940 lbs.

The .75" one is Push/Pull 3,350 / 2,650 lbs
:blink:

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 04:47 AM

By the way, can ya post a pic of your box and where ya tapped it?

jays68yak

12-28-2005, 05:01 AM

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&langId=-1&productId=200309367&R=200309367&issearch=992023
Thats the ram that I got. Doesnt give all the specs that yours is listing. I kinda just jumped the gun and ordered one. I dont have any probs with mine other then it is a bit slow. Its a great improvement over nothing.
Odds are good that you will have to limit the stroke of your ram.
1. You can cut it open and add a spacer in it.
2. Do something on the out side.
I found a few examples on pirate when I did mine. I went with what I had and could do quickly.

Im not finding a good pic of my box on my site. Nate did it and I think he got the info from ck5.

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 05:06 AM

Cool thank you.

Your's has a 1 1/8" rod and 2" bore. The one I'm looking at has a 1" rod and 1.5" bore. Yours has alot more surface area. Maybe I should look for a 1.75" or 2" bore ram with 1" or less rod. Hmmm... Back to search. :crazy:

jays68yak

12-28-2005, 05:09 AM

I would just make sure to get one that is bigger then the WTO stuff since they seem to bend all the time. Which leads to leaking.

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 05:11 AM

Hmmm...Anyone know what WTO uses?

PaloAltoK5

12-28-2005, 06:56 AM

Here is where CaptainInsano and I tapped ours:

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/TappedSteeringBox.jpg

http://silverlegend.biz/wheelin/HydroAssistBox.JPG

Hope it helps.

KidJethro

12-28-2005, 07:14 AM

Cool! Thanks...How long are your lines?

jays68yak

12-28-2005, 02:44 PM

Joe,
Item #: 50042
Description: Hytec Hydraulic Hose 1/4in. Dia., 42in. Length, 4000 PSI rated
Item Price: $6.99
Quantity: 2
Item Total: $13.98
Thats what I have on mine. I think most everyone else has 48inchers. Northern was backordered on them when I placed my order. But with my setup it seems to work fine.

barbastard

12-28-2005, 03:27 PM

Here's some pics of the first box I ever tapped :mrhumpy:

http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/album100

Since then I've done 4 more and getting ready to tap Eric's box....but it's dirty, oily and nasty...so I've put it off for a while!!! Shoot me a PM and I'll give you the lowdown on it. It's pretty easy, just measure 3 times, drill once and go slow and you'll be ok.

As far as the ram goes...WTO uses either a 1.5" or 1.75" bore with a 1" rod. I use the 1.5" bore and other than leaking from the day I got it and it basically needing to be rebuilt after about 6 trips...it's worked fine. I didn't feel like dicking around with custom mounts and all the fab that goes along with it so that's the main reason I went with WTO...I like their heim jointed rams. Much easier to mount and I believe they look better and have a better range of motion.

My only gripe with going to the hydro assist is the fact that at slow speeds the steering is somewhat heavy and that it's hard on PS pumps. However....those problems are about fixed for me....just received my KRC PS pump/resevoir kit last night. Got to install that and I'll be putting out over twice the amount of the stock pumps!!!! Steering should be saaawwweeeetttt after that.

Good luck.

Jason....I'll call you today.....got some questions on the wiring for that fan.

KidJethro

12-29-2005, 01:07 AM

Thanks for the pictures and part #'s Nate and Jason. The pictures really help.

Nate, when you drill and tap these things, do you take them apart first? Or just let'er rip? I figured I'd just packl the flutes on the drill and tap with grease to keep the chips out of the box... That is unless you actaully tear them down to tap them. I don't mind tearin it down, but if I don't have to, I don't want to. :flipoff2:

Fabbin the mounts is no big deal...an hour at most.

My box was new the day before Blazerfest so it's in good shape...No oily nasty crap on there. The only thing I worry about is how close my tires come to the box... When totally flexed and turned to the right, the lugs on the 42's rub the front part of the box. It has to be pretty extreme flex to get that close, but there is a shiny spot on my box from it.

My pump is also new. Just a stocker though. And I carry another new one as a spare. I might experiment with the pump mods detailed on the WFO website and see what happens.
What did the KRC pump cost ya?

Oh yeah....somthing happened to me today thats never happened before. I tried to do a donut in the parking lot at work....and ran out of gas. :D :D :blink: :pimp2:

Twisted Whipz

12-29-2005, 03:32 AM

nate likes to talk about working on other peoples dirty, greasy, oily boxes. couple more beers and he'll talk about, how he hooked up the hoses and pumped out some fluid.

jays68yak

12-29-2005, 03:47 AM

Joe heres what Nate did to my box. I was worried about my tire hitting the lines also, so I ran them the other way. So far it has not been and issue.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1750.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1751.sized.jpg

CaptainInsano

12-29-2005, 04:37 AM

AH Back from a 1000+ mile road trip in the Excursion to see family in Oroville and Fresno! Good to be home!!

My ram is a 2"x6" Ram, 36" hoses I believe, any shorter would be too short. I did 6" for a safety type reason, don't want to put extreme angle on my 1/2 ton running gear. :) So far so good. I only lost about .25 inch each side turning. Meaning my stop is got .25 inch between it and the knuckle.

I seriously would reconsider the 1.5" bore ram, I've heard nothing but bad stuff about them. Leaking, breaking, bending, etc. Many uses and abuses on mine and not a drip of fluid anywhere. The loss of speed is minimal and wouldn't sway my decision if I did it again.

KidJethro

12-29-2005, 06:13 AM

Ok I just ordered my stuff.

Ram- 1.5x8x1
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900455966&item=9-6645&catname=hydraulic

Hose- Ordered 3, one for a spare. 48"
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900455966&item=916-1448&catname=hydraulic

Fittings-

4 of these- 2 for the box, 2 for the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900475917&item=9-1501-4-4

2 of these- adapter to attach the hose to the ram
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900475917&item=9-6405-4-4

Total cost $87.93.

This is the 1.5x8x.75" ram-
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2005122900530328&item=9-4410-08&catname=hydraulic

I've been researchng this assist thing quite a bit the last few days, and have read about the problems with the 1.5" bore rams. However all the problems I've read about are concerning the 1.5 bore ram with a .75" diameter rod. I'm hoping the larger 1" diameter rod helps to stop the possible bending and resulting leaks. There is a larger difference in the push/pull specs between the two rams- The 1" ram- Push/Pull 5290/2940 lbs. The .75 ram- Push/Pull 3,350/2,650 lbs. The steering force with .75 ram would be closer to equal both left and right...But the 1" ram has a higher rating all the way around. It'll be quite a bit stronger 1 way than the other vs the .75 ram, but still stronger than the .75 ram in both directions.

As far as speed, the one 1" I ordred might be slower than the .75" ram, but should still be faster than the 2" rams, most of which have 1.125" rods.

I learned alot from this thread on Pirate- Including the link to the SurplusCenter stuff.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352276&highlight=hydro+assist

~EDIT~ Yay! Page 5! :flipoff2:

jays68yak

12-29-2005, 01:28 PM

~EDIT~ Yay! Page 5! :flipoff2:

THANK YOU. Now I dont have to wait for all the pics to load. :)

UseYourBlinker

12-29-2005, 01:37 PM

Great info in that Pirate thread. Thanks for taking the time to write all that out Joe. Jason is gonna help me install mine :flipoff2:

jays68yak

12-29-2005, 01:57 PM

Great info in that Pirate thread. Thanks for taking the time to write all that out Joe. Jason is gonna help me install mine :flipoff2:

Is it hard turning those stock rollers?

:flipoff2:

UseYourBlinker

12-30-2005, 12:28 AM

Don't know yet haven't put a 60 under yet to try it. :flipoff2:

UseYourBlinker

12-30-2005, 10:53 PM

Tried to make my order,but the site is getting updated. :(

KidJethro

12-30-2005, 10:58 PM

What ya gonna order?

UseYourBlinker

12-30-2005, 11:19 PM

All that you got,and a bag of chips. The only thing issue I see is mounting the ram,but I could use my brain and fab something up.

jays68yak

01-01-2006, 09:43 PM

muh belly is gone. :unsure:
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1753.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1754.sized.jpg
I had to cut a bit of the floor out. Now I gotta figure out how Im going to go about mounting the passanger seat.

CaptainInsano

01-02-2006, 04:52 AM

slip yoke tcase???

crewcabroller

01-02-2006, 05:02 AM

There is a larger difference in the push/pull specs between the two rams- The 1" ram- Push/Pull 5290/2940 lbs. The .75 ram- Push/Pull 3,350/2,650 lbs. The steering force with .75 ram would be closer to equal both left and right...But the 1" ram has a higher rating all the way around. It'll be quite a bit stronger 1 way than the other vs the .75 ram, but still stronger than the .75 ram in both directions.

As far as speed, the one 1" I ordred might be slower than the .75" ram, but should still be faster than the 2" rams, most of which have 1.125" rods.

That is incorrect. The reason they have a higher stated force rating is because the larger shaft ram is rated for more pressure, 3kpsi vs. 2kpsi. Therefor the rating on the 1" rod ram is given at 3kpsi whereas the rating on the .75" rod ram is given at 2kpsi.

At the same pressure the ram you ordered, with the 1" rod, will exert less pressure than the one with the .75" shaft due to the smaller surface area on the rod side of the piston. The non piston side will be equal in force to the .75" rod ram.

In other words, the ram you ordered will have a larger force differential between left and right and be weaker when contracting than the ram with a .75" rod.

Also as far as speed, your 1" ram will be faster when contracting than the .75" ram, not slower. The speed will be the same when extending though.

KidJethro

01-02-2006, 05:12 AM

Way to make me feel stupid dickhead. :uh oh: Where were ya when I asked about this stuff ealier? :(

jays68yak

01-02-2006, 06:08 AM

slip yoke tcase???

Ive been running a 208 for the past year. Went to a 241 cuz I had it. Dont have the fundage to go to the SYE kit just yet. So I think once I get around to do the 63" springs Ill have to do the slip yoke elminater also. Im more worried about the front shaft but thats just a consumable. :p

jays68yak

01-03-2006, 03:21 AM

Well today was spent redoing the exhaust for the 4th time this year. :crazy: That took about 3 hours. Bunch of crawling under the rig then getting back out. It was a PIA. Once I had that all welded up I pull the crossmember so that I could install it all, then put it all back together. Then moved on to changing out the crappy alum caster shims that broke the last trip. At the same time I also finished welding the hydro mount. I couldnt get to a little bit cuz the sping was in my way so since it was out I finished it. Once I installed the front dshaft I noticed that the CV wasnt going to cut it, so I did some modifing to it. Hopefully it works and holds up. Then I moved onto the passanger side floor. It isnt turning out as clean as I would like but it should do. Its all 16ga. Hopefully tomorrow night I can get the floor done and the seat mounted.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1756.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1757.sized.jpg
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/albums/D60/DSCN1758.sized.jpg

CaptainInsano

01-03-2006, 04:14 AM

nice, what you do to the CV, grind off the stops? Mine looks to be in a foo bared state and signs of lots of rubbing on the stops. Doubler should help though moving it back some. If you did grind em off and it holds up I'm doin the same.

jays68yak

01-03-2006, 04:17 AM

crewcabroller

01-03-2006, 04:17 AM

Way to make me feel stupid dickhead. :uh oh: Where were ya when I asked about this stuff ealier? :(

Well sorry, I just wanted to make sure you knew what the actual results would be before getting it all installed... It doesn't matter a whole lot since the speeds will be relatively close. I didn't see you ask :blink:

Twisted Whipz

01-04-2006, 12:32 AM

the cover panel looks good. hows the seat mounting coming along?

jays68yak

01-04-2006, 02:46 AM

The floor is for the most part done. Its as far as its getting before this weekend. I would say 95% of the hole is gone. Its way beefy. I can stand on it and it doesnt deflect, where as the stock part under the center console does.
The seat is mounted again. Used 2/3 of the stock mounting bolts/hooks. The third I had to weld to the floor. Guess I wont be taking it out soon. Its welded all around the leg, and then I added another support going back so that it would have to rip a lot of weld before it could come off. And thats if it pulls the stock stuff up. I think its more stabble then it was before hand.
Center console is back in. About an inch higher then before.

Twisted Whipz

01-04-2006, 04:39 AM

is jerry taking out the sami this coming trip, or is it still a work in progress?

jays68yak

01-04-2006, 06:51 AM

he better be taking it.

Twisted Whipz

01-04-2006, 01:58 PM

sweet. i may just meet up with my brother inlaw in tracy and meet you down there. but have no fear i'll chip in to help ya with gas if i do. that way i can bring spare parts for sr175's d44 so he can make the best dang outing of the new year.

jays68yak

01-04-2006, 02:45 PM

its cool. Gas is on the parents this trip. They gave me a $50 gas card for xmas. :2thumbs:

Twisted Whipz

01-05-2006, 12:43 AM

sweet

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 05:21 PM

Im thinking its going to be sawzall time. :) Somthings leaving.....

Twisted Whipz

01-10-2006, 07:11 PM

you gonna cut the top and install a cage.

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 07:48 PM

nope.

Twisted Whipz

01-10-2006, 08:38 PM

finally gonna do up the rear springs?

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 09:26 PM

Maybe. but I would use the torch for that.

Twisted Whipz

01-10-2006, 09:32 PM

you gonna redo the cross-member

or maybe bob the rear end

or perhapse build a side mount to the engine to stop the extra stress from the t-case clocking

barbastard

01-10-2006, 09:36 PM

Im thinking its going to be sawzall time. :) Somthings leaving.....

You bought the "do it yourself castrating kit" and are going to finally be able to fit into those jordache jeans you've been eyeing for the past 3 years and get rid of those pesky urges to pee while standing up!!! :flipoff2:

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 09:42 PM

you gonna redo the cross-member

or maybe bob the rear end

or perhapse build a side mount to the engine to stop the extra stress from the t-case clocking

not even thinking along those lines.....yet.

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 09:42 PM

Twisted Whipz

01-10-2006, 09:44 PM

you gonna cut out the winch and go multi mount?

barbastard

01-10-2006, 09:46 PM

You just want to beable to check out my camel toe. :flipoff2:

I didn't think you were allowed to have pets where you live.....

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 09:54 PM

you gonna cut out the winch and go multi mount?

Deffently thinking about cutting the winch/ bumper off and redoing it. Course also need to figure out why its not working.

Twisted Whipz

01-10-2006, 09:58 PM

what about re-inforcing the frame. sure does bind up when you get it all twiste up. be nice to move the radiator to the rear also. maybe run some exhaust tube inside the rails and relocate.

jays68yak

01-10-2006, 10:16 PM

what about re-inforcing the frame. sure does bind up when you get it all twiste up. be nice to move the radiator to the rear also. maybe run some exhaust tube inside the rails and relocate.

Not so sure I want to do this....It would cut down on space in the back.....it is getting moved tho.

Twisted Whipz

01-12-2006, 07:26 PM

try this on the motor mounts, maybe
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/500/motormount.JPG
barrowed this from pirate4x4

jays68yak

01-12-2006, 08:10 PM

that would help for torque and what not, but I need to replace the rubber either way.

Twisted Whipz

01-12-2006, 08:12 PM

true enough

CaptainInsano

01-12-2006, 08:47 PM

try this on the motor mounts, maybe
http://coloradok5.com/photos/data/500/motormount.JPG
barrowed this from pirate4x4

HAHA I used to have that setup on my rig. Worked pretty fuggin good. Thing is when going solid mounts or something that does not give you HAVE to use solid mounts for EVRYTHING or something WILL break. Solid engine mount, tranny mount, tcase mount. I didn't and it fucked up my tranny mount pretty good.

I've been toying with the idea of going solid mount everthing on my rig, not sure if it is a good idea or not.

jays68yak

01-12-2006, 08:59 PM

I would like to know if solid mounts would be a good idea or not. I mean I could care less if I felt vibes but is it good for the motor/tranny/tcase??

CaptainInsano

01-12-2006, 10:13 PM

I would like to know if solid mounts would be a good idea or not. I mean I could care less if I felt vibes but is it good for the motor/tranny/tcase??

Thats why I have not done it yet. It depends on your engines power/torque. I think I could get away with it with my 350. With your 454 I would lean towards maybe not. I have heard and agree I guess that you could rip threads out of the block or tranny. But then again I would think a u-joint would give before that would happen. It has to add extra stress on the parts though. You could do solid mounts and a torque plate. :bling:

I really hate when I am trying to torque over a rock and see my whole drivetrain / engine moving. You could argue that is more prone to breaking shit too.

CaptainInsano

01-12-2006, 10:14 PM

Here's some more interesting info and parts. Been eyeing these for awhile.

http://www.autofab.com/racing.htm

jays68yak

01-12-2006, 10:21 PM

Here's some more interesting info and parts. Been eyeing these for awhile.

http://www.autofab.com/racing.htm

Thank you....You just gave me an idea. Im going to build me a set of those that use the stock mount thats bolted to the block. Those are the same type of bushings im running on my tcase mount. Shouldnt be hard to fab them up. :2thumbs:

jays68yak

01-12-2006, 10:24 PM

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=35&cat=28&page=1

Twisted Whipz

01-13-2006, 12:52 AM

are you gonna add more bracing between the frame rails?

crewcabroller

01-13-2006, 01:45 AM

Don't go with a solid drivetrain mount until you get rid of all your frame flex. I'd focus more on getting rid of frame flex than anything else, it's basically teh root of all your problems.

IceMan

01-13-2006, 01:58 AM

Don't go with a solid drivetrain mount until you get rid of all your frame flex. I'd focus more on getting rid of frame flex than anything else, it's basically teh root of all your problems.

I was just reading thru the rest of the posts to say this but you beat me to it.
If the frame flexes and you have solid mounts all over you will brake something like the mounts or adapters or case basically the weakest point.
:2thumbs: