New build up of the blazer/cab truck

[jays68yak]

Got the passanger side fender on.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5275-2/DSCN1986.JPG
Next was the rocker, I started by cutting off the rocker
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5267-2/DSCN1984.JPG
then cut the cab corner
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5271-2/DSCN1985.JPG
Then installed some 2x3 steel.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5279-2/DSCN1987.JPG
Then I rebuilt the floor.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5283-2/DSCN1988.JPG
This is where I ended for the day, got the rear part of the floor done. Just need to cut all the rusty parts out of the front and put new metal in.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5287-2/DSCN1993.JPG

[CaptainInsano]

oh shit this is giving me ideas...


Must put truck back together, must resist sawzall, nooooooooooo!


Lookin good dude.

[Burt4x4]

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOIN. SHOULD BE DRINK DRUNK BY NOW. ryan where are you. i'm board where the time gone, hury up and get home nd party. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :drunk:

[Ryan B.]

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOIN. SHOULD BE DRINK DRUNK BY NOW. ryan where are you. i'm board where the time gone, hury up and get home nd party. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :drunk:

HAHA!!
Ooop, too late. Looks like burts all passed out at the keyboard after a session of drunken webwheeling. :pimp1: :beer:

Is it time to go to pismo yet? :p

[Nosmog73]

Updates.. :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

fixing DD. Check back when thats done. :flipoff2:

[Liftedassdodge]

sweet

[FaultLine350]

Your gonna love it.... That looks bad ass..... :beer:

Casey

[jays68yak]

Time for a bit of an update. Even tho its more of a step back since Im taking more apart. Anywho, got the th400 taken apart. If it goes together as easy as it came apart then I might have it back together tomorrow night.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5467-2/DSCN2034.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5471-2/DSCN2035.JPG

[jays68yak]

Well I finally got the tranny back together last weekend. Today I was able to spend some time on the rig again. I got the 205 back together, all 32 spline outputs, 31 spline input. Got the 203 back together and the last 4 holes drilled and tapped so that I can use the 208/241 adapter from the 400.
Then I was able to get the 205 and 203 joined via a Jeds Machining doubler adapter.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5628-2/DSCN2082.JPG
Then it all went on to the back of the th400.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5632-2/DSCN2083.JPG
And after A LOT of wrestling and using 2 jacks it got bolted onto the back of the 454.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5636-2/DSCN2084.JPG
It doesnt stick down too far using the old 241 xmember as a temp member. I plan on building one or two that mount to both adapters. But first I need to replace the motor mounts so that it all sits level.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5640-2/DSCN2085.JPG

[stunnin650]

sure is a nice trans jack

[jays68yak]

Im done with it now if you want it back. :p :)

[Nosmog73]

Looks good Jay..Glas to see you got it in ok.. :2thumbs:

[Twisted Whipz]

BF is sneaking up. whats in store for this guy. is doubler a consumable? wait and see on our next exciting episode of as J's world turns.

[jays68yak]

BF is sneaking up. whats in store for this guy. is doubler a consumable? wait and see on our next exciting episode of as J's world turns.

It better not be. My only worry is the tranny now. :unsure:

[DieTryingK5]

sure is a nice trans jack

yes it is, wonder where it came from...

[Liftedassdodge]

penis flames!

[jays68yak]

Well needed a way to mount the radiator.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5645-2/DSCN2090.JPG

[Nosmog73]

That looks GOOD Jay ...I see you going to re use the stock hood latch...Way to go :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

That looks GOOD Jay ...I see you going to re use the stock hood latch...Way to go :2thumbs:

And hood hinges. And the springs once I get the hodd all welded back together.

[CaptainInsano]

hmm that size hole in the floor looks familiar. How come you aren't going totally flat on the bottom?

[jays68yak]

hmm that size hole in the floor looks familiar. How come you aren't going totally flat on the bottom?

The adapter was already welded. I figured Id leave it alone. Its up there for the most part.

[UseYourBlinker]

BUMP.. Looking good. I bugged Jay a bit today,so he didn't really get to much done. He still has a ton to do,but there he'll git-r-done. :beer:

[jays68yak]

BUMP.. Looking good. I bugged Jay a bit today,so he didn't really get to much done. He still has a ton to do,but there he'll git-r-done. :beer:

Thanks for the beer. :2thumbs: :beer:

[jays68yak]

Seats are in. Just need to fully weld in the brackets and make some for the center console.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5690-2/DSCN2101.JPG

[Twisted Whipz]

so you going to have a plexi-glass bottom rig, so you can watch the driveshafts for when they get bound up. should be quite entertaining

[jays68yak]

Its one of those clear floors made by the same co as the clear gear covers. It was rather cheap so Im thinking Ill give it a shot.

[DuneRunner]

Things look like they are coming together.
:beer: :beer: :beer:

[jays68yak]

I now have 2 crossmembers. Hopefully they hold up and do thier job.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5693-2/DSCN2103.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5697-2/DSCN2104.JPG

[Twisted Whipz]

what happened to the square tube front drive shaft

[jays68yak]

Its too short. :blink: The shaft I got with the ford 205 was out of a van. Just so happens to be about the right length. :unsure:

[Twisted Whipz]

:pain: good idea

[jays68yak]

mmm How about some shifters.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5701-2/DSCN2105.JPG
These are prob the cleanest thing that I have fabbed up yet. Im in love with them. I want to fondle them all night. The best part about them, they were free. No money was spent on my part to build them. It was all stuff I had laying around the garage.

[UseYourBlinker]

Nice mang...


Is that grey thing my seat? :unsure:

[jays68yak]

I removed the seat for easy access to the work area. Well I never had them fully bolted in cuz I knew I would be needing to work there.

[jays68yak]

The headlights work. :uh oh:

[jays68yak]

It runs. :2thumbs:

[CaptainInsano]

mmm How about some shifters.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5701-2/DSCN2105.JPG
These are prob the cleanest thing that I have fabbed up yet. Im in love with them. I want to fondle them all night. The best part about them, they were free. No money was spent on my part to build them. It was all stuff I had laying around the garage.

Twin stick huh, I'm jealous. Looks good!

[Twisted Whipz]

Tripple

[jays68yak]

Well I just took a good 20 steps back. Doubler, both crossmembers, both driveshaft, shifters, and adapter are all out. Since the replacement adapter is 4 inches long I have to fab up a new crossmember. :uh oh: Oh well back to work, its going to be a long day.

[FaultLine350]

That always seems to happen right after alot of good progress is finished. :crazy: This build up is bad ass. Im diggin all the fab work :beer:

Casey

[jays68yak]

Well its all back together. New front crossmember, well more or less modded the one that I had in there....again. Seats are bolted back down. Got the start of a radio system going in. Friday night I scored a kenwood deck that plays MP3's....for $20. :banger: I would of tried to test drive the rig if the batteries would of wanted to play along. :uh oh:

[jays68yak]

Welp figured out why the winch no workie.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5732-2/DSCN2147.JPG
And then it does the same thing in one other spot. Guess its time for a new motor.

[UseYourBlinker]

AHHHHH........How cute it's a boy. Congrat's Jay :2thumbs:

[barbastard]

AHHHHH........How cute it's a boy. Congrat's Jay :2thumbs: :laugh: :laugh:

Time for that 8274-50 motor I was talking to you about Jay.

[jays68yak]

AHHHHH........How cute it's a boy. Congrat's Jay :2thumbs: :laugh: :laugh:

Time for that 8274-50 motor I was talking to you about Jay.


You know my birthday is coming up. :2thumbs: :flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

acctually I found this last night
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=300001057639&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
Not a bad price, Id also have to get a new drive gear as this motor needs a 20 spline one vers my keyed one. I dont think this is going to happen before BF tho.

[crewcabroller]

Winches are overrated anyways.

[stunnin650]

don't worrie i'll have 9000 pounds of pulling force front and rear i'll get u out

[jays68yak]

http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5737-2/DSCN2148.JPG
Well its out of the garage. Not under its own power tho. :mad: Still wont start unassisted, tranny doesnt work. Worked when I had the rear on jackstands, but not now.

I have no idea what to do. Really tempted to just leave it and mess with it down the road. Maybe just go to BF for the day saturday.

Im so pissed right now. ARGH! :mad:

[gr8pumkin]

Jay go 465 and be done with the whole problem, 1.2.3.4...... :D

Seriously no more over heating easy to fix parts and the biggy GRANNY LOW...

[jays68yak]

Jay go 465 and be done with the whole problem, 1.2.3.4...... :D

Seriously no more over heating easy to fix parts and the biggy GRANNY LOW...

Find me a setup...seriously.....Im already thinking about it.

[UseYourBlinker]

If you need a hand doin some work, I'm just two freeway exit's away. I have plenty of time,but you have to pick me up. :uh oh:


Go break something of Mikey's and your feel better!! :2thumbs:

[gr8pumkin]

Try this
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484034

[gr8pumkin]

Hey I'll pick you tommorow a nine.

Jeremy

[UseYourBlinker]

Take Jeremy's :unsure:

[gr8pumkin]

Um no I don't think so :mad:

[UseYourBlinker]

Hey I'll pick you tommorow a nine.

WHo me?

[stunnin650]

is it a junk yard run this wekend, i can check with my buddy i gave 2 cars two see what i can do

[jays68yak]

Try this
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484034

Thats in MT. :argue:

[jays68yak]

is it a junk yard run this wekend, i can check with my buddy i gave 2 cars two see what i can do

My only hope to have this running for BF would be to take the 2wd tranny that works thats sitting at my parents. Tear it apart and toss the correct output in it. Then pray that it works when I get it back together.

[Ryan B.]

that bytes. :crazy: Did you swap the tranny oil pump or check it out?
I know where there is a complete 465-205 combo i could score for you.. pm me if you want me to see if its still available.

[gr8pumkin]

Yeah its in montana but I check to pallet it and ship it, it would be a hundred dollars... So basically your paying 250 for a 465 you can sell the 205 for a hundred, and bam there you go.

Just trying to help

[CaptainInsano]

Jay go 465 and be done with the whole problem, 1.2.3.4...... :D

Seriously no more over heating easy to fix parts and the biggy GRANNY LOW...

yup

[CaptainInsano]

Jay go 465 and be done with the whole problem, 1.2.3.4...... :D

Seriously no more over heating easy to fix parts and the biggy GRANNY LOW...

Find me a setup...seriously.....Im already thinking about it.

There's two in Sac

SM420 Tranny & NP205 T-Case $400
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/175922206.html
I have a SM420 transmission shifts good no leaks, the transfer case is a NP205 single stick works good. I am asking $400 for both, but I will sell separately. Call Brian at 530-624-2864 or e-mail me at grtzin@yahoo.com this is in or around Lodi no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests 175922206

Chevy SM465 With NP205 & 1/2 Ton Chevy Axles $300
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/175116718.html
SM 465 w/ 205 fixed yoke front and rear with adaptor and shifters, and bell housing. $300- I Also have two dana 44 front ends w/ 373 gears. 1 ten bolt front end, w/ 373 gears. A rear ten bolt with 342 gears and posi. A set of ten bolts w/ 273's. All axles are complete and gears are good. Make Offer. this is in or around Orangevale no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests 175116718


The SM420 low is even lower geared than the 465.

[CaptainInsano]

gawd damn I didn't know it was this low!

It enjoys the lowest compound gear of all the common truck transmissions at 7.05:1 and as such it is a popular choice for those wanting a very low crawling gear. 465 is ONLY 6.55:1 :)

Hell I might find me a 420 and swap my 465 out...

[Burt4x4]

I can't remember what it was but there is something about the 420 that makes the 465 a better choice.....shit I can't remember...
:burt:

[jays68yak]

Well Im not a 100% sure what to do right now. Nate is telling me its too early to give up. I think he could be right. A manual swap just isnt in the budget right now. Neither is rerebuilding a tranny. Well see what happens over the next 2 weekends...

[barbastard]

Well Im not a 100% sure what to do right now. Nate is telling me its too early to give up. I think he could be right. A manual swap just isnt in the budget right now. Neither is rerebuilding a tranny. Well see what happens over the next 2 weekends...

:poke:

Get your ass in gear and git ‘er done!!! This isn’t over by a long shot…..

As the great and almighty “Bluto” (Jim Belushi :drunk: ) from Animal house once said….. “Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!” …….I think that this applies here too. :flipoff2:

After talking to you I think you’ve got the right game plan put together….so roll with it….and remember….this is supposed to be FUN, if it’s not being fun than you are doing something wrong. Also, there are a lot of resources in this club….use them!!! That’s the killer thing about being in this club as opposed to being a “lone wheeler” who roams the earth looking for wheeling Zen…..kinda like that dude in “Kung Fu”. Here you got people to help you out.

Let me know if you need a hand.

:beer:

[k5LS2]

Jayson, PM me if you need some help :beer:

[jays68yak]

ok :p

[jays68yak]

Well Kevin mentioned 2 main things to try.
1. add more fuild. After doing this I did gain forward movement, but I have to rev the crap out of it to move a few inches.
2. Try disconnecting the shifter and see if that makes a difference. Nope. Still wants to go forward in everything...but park.

[DuneRunner]

I was going to put my 2¢ in and say add more ATF, but Sounds like you did that.
Did you have an empty torch converter? if so there is something like 4qts in there alone. (maybe more)

Any way... Hope the truck moves on its own soon.

KEN

[jays68yak]

Theres a lot in there and its reading high on the dip stick. The dip stick is out of the 88 suburban that I got the motor out of, it also had a th400 in it. So its the correct dipstick. I think there is something up with the vavle body and or a seal or two in the tranny.

[crewcabroller]

Did you replace the torque converter? If so did you pre-fill? If not it could start dry and burn up the pump. Learned that the hard way on my camaro's trans.

[jays68yak]

Yes and there is atleast a quart in it before I tossed it in.

[jays68yak]

Theres an 465/205 combo from behind a 454 on CL for $200. He is about 10 mins from my work. :uh oh:

[crewcabroller]

Why not just go to the JY and get a "guaranteed for 30 day" auto and swap it in? Hell buy 3-4 of them and use the one that works and take back the others :p

[UseYourBlinker]

Cause Jay doesn't have a money tree growing next to the pole :flipoff2:

[crewcabroller]

It's the JY, there like $30 :unsure:

[jays68yak]

Not up here, they would prob want $200 plus a $50 core. IF I could find a th400 4x4 tranny in the yard.

Why go throught that when I have a good working 2wd th400 in the back of my truck. I know this one worked cuz I drove the POS truck home 40 mins vrs grabing the trailer. The only thing is its been outside for the last 6-7 months. :uh oh: My plan is to swap the output shafts and toss it in and see what happens. Altho swapping outputs means I have to take the WHOLE tranny apart. Well I guess trannyS.

The more I think about it, I think its a bad pump. When it was going out I had to rev it a lot to go anywhere. Now I wasnt getting anything and I basicly overfill it and I get some pressure but still have to rev the crap out of it. That or it is one of the seals......

[IceMan]

Theres a lot in there and its reading high on the dip stick. The dip stick is out of the 88 suburban that I got the motor out of, it also had a th400 in it. So its the correct dipstick. I think there is something up with the vavle body and or a seal or two in the tranny.

If it's going forward on every gear except the park, you have a locked up forward clutch.
The 400 has that problem.
I have one sitting in my garage now that was doing that in my waggy.
You need a new forward clutch setup.
I know now it's too late but if I had seen this before, I have a complete setup 465/205 32 spline with Hydro clutch, and pedals and all that I could sell you, and you can pay me when you can, in installments.

And if you have a 2wd th400, if it's a fixed yoke, you are in luck, just take off the tail housing and the yoke and you have a 4wd th400.
:2thumbs: They are the same except for a threaded hole at the end of the shaft for the bolt that holds the yoke.
:beer:
Ryanb should have mentionned that.

[jays68yak]

Thanks for the input on the forward clutch. Ill swap that out along with the pump. Its out of the truck now and I just need to get some time to do it.

The 2wd is the same as a th400/205 output. The 208/241 is shorter.

[IceMan]

Thanks for the input on the forward clutch. Ill swap that out along with the pump. Its out of the truck now and I just need to get some time to do it.

The 2wd is the same as a th400/205 output. The 208/241 is shorter.

That's weird I heard all GM 4x4 th400 shafts are the same length, the Cadillac had the longer and there was i think one cadillac model with the shorter shaft.
I guess I was missinformed.

[jays68yak]

My ATSG book shows atleast 5 different lengths and then you also have the jeep 10 spline one.

[jays68yak]

Well since Im not affraid to show my fawk ups. I found out why I think the tranny wasnt working. Can you spot it?

http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5741-2/DSCN2152.JPG

[Nosmog73]

I am going to guess the shift linkage in the lower right corner of the pic.. :roll:

[jays68yak]

Be more discriptive. :flipoff2:

[k5LS2]

.1 theres no trans filter
.2 theres no trans pan or gasket
.3 broken bolt in valve body
.4 :flipoff2:



Is it running yet??

[jays68yak]

Mike is right. I didnt completly hook up the shifter linkage to the valve body. Opps. :blink:

No its still out of the truck. Since its out I want to replace the pump and fix the broken bolt. Its not missing it snapped when I was torquing them down. Just want to make sure it doesnt cause anymore issues. It out now so why not. Should of done it when I first put it together, but I like doing things like 45 times.

I was helping Ray sawp some stuff on his rig today. That took a while. Hopefully Ill have it back in on the 4th.

[barbastard]

:beer: :dance:

Someone's going to BF!!!!


:flipoff2:

[k5LS2]

:2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

IT MOVES UNDER ITS OWN POWER!!! :D

[CMN2GTU]

Right on dude...maybe this will be the last time you have to yank it apart before you break it. :beer:

[Nosmog73]

Cool.. :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

The best part is it fits in the garage with the 38s on it. :)
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5766-2/DSCN2158.JPG
Outside with all the 38s on.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5746-2/DSCN2153.JPG
Test fitting the bedside. Still need to trim some of the rear off and the bottom.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5750-2/DSCN2154.JPG

[k5LS2]

Dude truck looks sick!!! The bed sides pull it together well :2thumbs:
I see threats got you motivated to put them on :flipoff2:

[Nosmog73]

Looks Good Jay reminds me of the old general lee...LOL

:p

[barbastard]

:beer: :2thumbs: :D

[caliboy63]

looks good on them 38's, if you got those 44's it probably wouldn't have fit in the garage anymore.

[jays68yak]

Yeah but 44s woulda been cooler. :banger:

[caliboy63]

fo-sho

[CMN2GTU]

Is that the length you're gonna run those sides?
I thought you were planning on shortening them a smidgen.

Looks dope either way, but yo yo yo work on them crayzay body lines yo :rolleyes:

[FaultLine350]

That reminds me of when mine looked all pretty. DO NOT FLIP IT ...

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h100/tattoo4me/Picture002.jpg


Lets keep one of these bad ass body styles lookin good on the board :beer:[/img]

[Ryan B.]

Lets keep one of these bad ass body styles lookin good on the board :beer:[/img]

Um yah, that would be me.

The guy with the remove-able '72 front clip and bedsides. :)

I have a feeling jason's gonna be beating on these body panels also. :rolleyes:

[jays68yak]

Lets keep one of these bad ass body styles lookin good on the board :beer:[/img]

I have a feeling jason's gonna be beating on these body panels also. :rolleyes:

I concur.



Ray. I took a total of 27" out of the bedside. 18 from in front of the rear wheel and 9 behind it. Its now 7 inches shorter then a shortbed bedside.

http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5770-2/DSCN2159.JPG

[FaultLine350]

Lets keep one of these bad ass body styles lookin good on the board :beer:[/img]

Um yah, that would be me.

The guy with the remove-able '72 front clip and bedsides. :)

I have a feeling jason's gonna be beating on these body panels also. :rolleyes:

Removable front clip is something I should deffinatly think about. I allready went through 2 cabs 2 beds and 2 front clips..... 3rd ones a charm I guess :crazy:

Casey

[jays68yak]

Why keep changing them? Just leave them an wheel. but this is coming from someone who did a body swap cuz he broke his windshield. :uh oh:

[CMN2GTU]

Ray. I took a total of 27" out of the bedside. 18 from in front of the rear wheel and 9 behind it. Its now 7 inches shorter then a shortbed bedside.

http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5770-2/DSCN2159.JPG

Ohhh SNAP!!1 That's off da heeezy!
Are you dovetailin that thing next?...and what's lookin so shiny on yer floor under the rear of your junk, is that lube?...did you wash? Or roll over an unsuspecting roomie :flipoff2:

Fawk dude, if I could get my hands on a neckbrace and some good insurance I just might be bold enough to get in a truck with you when you got the keys in your hand...awhell too late for that.
Oh wait pavement doesn't count huh. Dammit back to square one.
Fawkit, bring it beeyyaaatch waddyawannadoliveforever?

[jays68yak]

In that pic the rear of the bedside is 6 inches in towards the center compaired to stock. So yeah Im dovetailing it. I may up it to 10 a side. I also lengthend the slider.

[FaultLine350]

Why keep changing them? Just leave them an wheel. but this is coming from someone who did a body swap cuz he broke his windshield. :uh oh:

Trust me , Im not changing these fenders for a while.. I need to run tank trap a bunch before i even think about changing anything.. To much work NEED MORE WHEELIN TIME...... :beer:

Im stooked to see how yours is gonna turn out.....We deffinatly need to wheel togeather sometime...

Casey

[jays68yak]

Um blazer fest.....Ill be the one with the FI 454 laying in on it through tank.

[caliboy63]

i'm in 18 on each side...3 feet total! none in the front though. I'm thinking about taking it in about 10 each side in the front.

[FaultLine350]

Um blazer fest.....Ill be the one with the FI 454 laying in on it through tank.

Dont know if im gonna be able to make BF this year I think Im goin to be out of town the week of. But if not Ill be right behind you upside down sideways in the trap...... :2thumbs:

Casey

[jays68yak]

-22"
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5774-2/DSCN2161.JPG

[caliboy63]

-36"
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/bbgirltink/DCP_2272.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/bbgirltink/scrapbook2.jpg

i don't have the lame ass mud flaps anymore, they were just there for a ticket :beer:

[Cracker]

According to this month's FourWheeler front tapers are legal! :2thumbs: We'll see. :uh oh:

[caliboy63]

yaeh whoever said tapereding your truck si legal is smoking some fine herbs. If you have a tire sticking outside your fenders AT ALL it's illegal, believe me I can prove it. Everytime i drive my truck cops just love to pull me over. It's like i'm famous, they want my autograph and everything :blink:

[caliboy63]

oh and don't forget about hte 100 foot tall rooster tails that it throws on the freeway when it's raining.

[Cracker]

none in the front though. I'm thinking about taking it in about 10 each side in the front.

yaeh whoever said tapereding your truck si legal is smoking some fine herbs. If you have a tire sticking outside your fenders AT ALL it's illegal, believe me I can prove it. Everytime i drive my truck cops just love to pull me over. It's like i'm famous, they want my autograph and everything :blink:

You can't prove that a front taper is illegal by driving your stock front fendered truck. :roll:

[caliboy63]

i can prove that having your tires stick out past the fenders is illegal. I'd be more then happy to recomend some fine CHP officers that would confirm this :pain: . Are you saying it IS legal to narrow the front?

[barbastard]

i can prove that having your tires stick out past the fenders is illegal.

I've always wondered about this myself. My question to you is:

How do model "A" hotrodders and other open front wheel rodders get away with it. Granted….tapered rear’s are a completely different story. But fronts…..I think might be LEGAL.

[caliboy63]

the law states that vehicles of a certain vintage do not need to have covered tires. I do beleive it's like from somewhere in the 50's. SO if your ride is '52 vintage or older you don't need covered tires. Can ya'll tell i'm going into the CHP academy or what!

[barbastard]

the law states that vehicles of a certain vintage do not need to have covered tires. I do beleive it's like from somewhere in the 50's. SO if your ride is '52 vintage or older you don't need covered tires. Can ya'll tell i'm going into the CHP academy or what!

Ok...I might buy that. Doens't really make sense...but I could see it.

ANyone else have some sort of insight as to why tapered fronts ARE or are NOT legal?

I'm just an innocent bystander in this one trying to get to the truth..... :help2:

[caliboy63]

actually i think it's older then the 50's...hmm, i'll have to go find my law book. But when i got my last fix-it ticket the officer said I had to get some flares for the front tires of my truck because they stick out...and remember it's not narrowed. she said you can't have a tire stick'n out even an inch. All tire tread needs to be covered, and mud flaps have to cover enough tire to cover the wheel hub (or 50%).

[ChevyDrivnRdneck]

Ok...I might buy that. Doens't really make sense...but I could see it.

ANyone else have some sort of insight as to why tapered fronts ARE or are NOT legal?

I'm just an innocent bystander in this one trying to get to the truth..... :help2:


Fenders and Mudguards


27600. No person shall operate any motor vehicle having three or more wheels, any trailer, or semitrailer unless equipped with fenders, covers, or devices, including flaps or splash aprons, or unless the body of the vehicle or attachments thereto afford adequate protection to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle and all such equipment or such body or attachments thereto shall be at least as wide as the tire tread. This section does not apply to those vehicles exempt from registration, trailers and semitrailers having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds, or any vehicles manufactured and first registered prior to January 1, 1971, having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds.


Still looking for more :2thumbs:

Found this too..................


Vehicle Code



Vehicles of Historic Value


5004. (a) Notwithstanding any other provision of this code, any owner of a vehicle described in paragraph (1), (2), or (3) which is operated or moved over the highway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar purpose shall, upon application in the manner and at the time prescribed by the department, be issued special identification plates for the vehicle:

(1) A motor vehicle with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965.

(2) A motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 or prior thereto.

(3) A vehicle which was manufactured after 1922, is at least 25 years old, and is of historic interest.

(b) The special identification plates assigned to motor vehicles with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965 and to any motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 and prior thereto shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with "Horseless Carriage No. 1".

The special identification plates assigned to vehicles specified in paragraph (3) of subdivision (a) shall run in a separate numerical series, commencing with "Historical Vehicle No. 1".

Each series of plates shall have different and distinguishing colors.

(c) A fee of twenty-five dollars ($25) shall be charged for the initial issuance of the special identification plates. Such plates shall be permanent and shall not be required to be replaced. If such special identification plates become damaged or unserviceable in any manner, replacement for the plates may be obtained from the department upon proper application and upon payment of such fee as is provided for in Section 9265.

(d) All funds received by the department in payment for such identification plates or the replacement thereof shall be deposited in the California Environmental License Plate Fund.

(e) These vehicles shall not be exempt from the equipment provisions of Sections 26709, 27150, and 27600.

(f) As used in this section, a vehicle is of historic interest if it is collected, restored, maintained, and operated by a collector or hobbyist principally for purposes of exhibition and historic vehicle club activities.

Amended Ch. 918, Stats. 1984. Effective January 1, 1985.



found all that here: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vc.htm

[jays68yak]

Fenders and Mudguards


27600. No person shall operate any motor vehicle having three or more wheels, any trailer, or semitrailer unless equipped with fenders, covers, or devices, including flaps or splash aprons, or unless the body of the vehicle or attachments thereto afford adequate protection to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle and all such equipment or such body or attachments thereto shall be at least as wide as the tire tread. This section does not apply to those vehicles exempt from registration, trailers and semitrailers having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds, or any vehicles manufactured and first registered prior to January 1, 1971, having an unladen weight of under 1,500 pounds.



See by reading that I still think front tappers are legal. BUT the catch is how far your tires orginally stuck out from the body or didnt. See if you can follow me. Typically when a front is tappered it is done in a manor to keep the orginal width of the firewall and the body attached to the side of the firewall. So if your tires did not stick out past the fender before the tapper then they are not sticking out passed the firewall and its body work. This would still allow the rocker and what not to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle. Now if you have wider tires then you would still need a flap to cover the rear of the tire. That paragraph does not meantion a single thing about the top or the front part of the tire.

So on to the back, as long as there is something to effectively minimize the spray or splash of water or mud to the rear of the vehicle you should be cool. (read mud flaps)

Nate why do you care? Yours is a trailered rig now anywho. Aside from a quick store run do you plan on driving it much?

Caliboy...are you starting a fab shop or joining the CHP?

[k5LS2]

Fab shop by day CHP man by night :D

[caliboy63]

CHP by day, fab shop by night is more like it. I am starting a fab shop, and keeping myself somewhat busy. But if CHP comes a calling i'll be answering. CHP is sweet money and bene's. I know i can make some good money doing fab work but I would LOVE to be a cop too. Something about not haveing to worry about money coming in, and paying the bills seems nice to me. Plus i've been training o become a cop for a long time. I've got years of ju-jitsu, cardio, and weight lifting under my belt, and all the testing and psychological tests I've had to take for the CHP, if they want me i'm in. I'm not selling a ton of stuff anyways so who knows if this business will ever take off :( :uh oh: :blink: :beer:

[caliboy63]

I see how it might be taken that the cab-or firewall width being behind the tires could effectively be considered a "mud flap" so to speak. I bet in the end it all comes down to the cop who pulls your huge wheeling machine over in the first place ya know. I'm going to have to side with ya and say it COULD be considered legal. The fact taht there is no fender flare still amkes me question it though.

[ChevyDrivnRdneck]

OK I just got off the phone with one of my buddies. He says that IF the driver "deserves" a ticket they can get down to technicalities of 2 inches or one tread width of the top of the tire. He told me that technically the tread has to be covered top and rear to keep debris from the road to be thrown into the air by the tire. He also told me that unless the driver is an assholt to him he doesn't bother with it unless it is majorly uncovered like half the tire or better. He didn't quote e the section in the code book though.

[jays68yak]

on the rear of mine, at the most I have a 4th of the tire covered. Front prob more like a 3rd.

[caliboy63]

i think that's kinda what i said above. it's kinda up to the cop. My tires are pretty much completly uncovered in the reonly a slight portion of the front of the rear tire is covered and i have been tailed by CHP's and city cops and not got a ticket. I have had some total dick cops write me up with two page tickets (even though I was nice to them). cant win'em all :chaz:

[Ryan B.]

Hey Caliboy, let me know when you'll be able to sign off my tickets. :2thumbs: :beer: :pimp1: :D

PS, this dude i know has a toyota 4runner and got pulled over last week and the cop gave him a hard time about not having doors. "its not a jeep, only jeeps are allowed not to have doors" is what the cop said. No ticket or anything but they argued for a while about it.

[caliboy63]

as far as Iknow there is no law about having your doors on. F#$K J@#P'S!!!! I usually tell people i wont work on them...haha...unless I really need the money :unsure:

[Cracker]

Hey Caliboy, let me know when you'll be able to sign off my tickets. :2thumbs: :beer: :pimp1: :D



Me too me too. Please hurry with this CHP thing, my bill should be here in a few weeks. :p

[caliboy63]

oh man, it wont be that soon. I just talked to the area commander fro mendocino county, he's one of my dad's friends, and he had them look up my progress and it looks like i have a few more months before I get my turn in the academy. Kinda sucks cause that means i will be in the academy possibly through august of next year....RIGHT WHEN I'M GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!!...shitty. Well, we get the weekend off, and when I get out it will deffinetly be time for a honeymoon :D :p :D :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[barbastard]

Nate why do you care? Yours is a trailered rig now anywho. Aside from a quick store run do you plan on driving it much?

Don’t really care for my rig, just more interested in it for “general knowledge”. As you said….mine is now a trailer queen so I’m not too concerned anymore with being street legal.

Besides…I just wanted to “stir the pot” a little bit on this topic!!
:flipoff2:

[CaptainInsano]

I see how it might be taken that the cab-or firewall width being behind the tires could effectively be considered a "mud flap" so to speak. I bet in the end it all comes down to the cop who pulls your huge wheeling machine over in the first place ya know. I'm going to have to side with ya and say it COULD be considered legal. The fact taht there is no fender flare still amkes me question it though.

http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9153 :beer:

[caliboy63]

did you see my big rig dually looking thingys haning off my rig? They're gone now.

[jays68yak]

Well I put the hood on and drove it out of the garage to see what it all looked like.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5778-2/DSCN2162.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5782-2/DSCN2163.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5786-2/DSCN2164.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5790-2/DSCN2165.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5794-2/DSCN2166.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5798-2/DSCN2167.JPG
The rear sits a bit lower then the front. Ill have to address that later. The hood isnt perfect, well none of the body work is but its a trail truck, so one side has a 1/2 gap. I think it has more to do with the hinges and how old they are. Now to put it all back together.

[crewcabroller]

Nice early bronco man! :p

Awesome!!!

[gr8pumkin]

Hell ya bother that biatch is sick, can't wait to video you flogging the trap, and the best part is that's the best she's ever going to look. But it came out sick, now if I could ever finish my crap.

Jeremy

[caliboy63]

that's f-ing sick bro! you gonna have bumpers on it for BF?

[jays68yak]

no bumpers. I might have a crossmember on the front to start my winch mount but even thats iffy.

[Cracker]

The rear is begging for coilovers. :beer: The two tone came out nice.

[jays68yak]

Last full day to work on the rig till BF for me. All I got done was the floor. :uh oh: Altho I dont have much left. Anyways I started out with a shelf from a work van. Cut it up a bit and made it all bolt in. Its in 2 main pieces with one smaller one in the passanger side so that I can get to the shifters. Which is a good thing since I need to revisit the shifters. The 1/4 all thread needs a beefing up. Yesterday I spent the whole day wiring the truck and getting everything working. I have tail lights, head lights, fan, line lock is hooked up but not sure its working.
Drivers side floor
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5802-2/DSCN2168.JPG
Passanger side floor
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5806-2/DSCN2169.JPG
pside agian, the piece that ramps down to the floor is the smaller removable one.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5810-2/DSCN2170.JPG
Dash, still need to toss the radio back in.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5814-2/DSCN2171.JPG
I never thought my erector set would come in handy to mount gauges. Now if I could find the rest of the erector set. I prob used it on something else.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5818-2/DSCN2172.JPG


On a side note, My trailer doesnt like me. I hurt my shoulder trying to move it and hook it back up to my truck. Then I fell through one of the boards. :crazy:

[CaptainInsano]

Nice work, especially makin it removable. I was lazy and welded mine PERMANENTLY to the floor. Although I made it freakin huge so working from underneath is easy.

:beer:

I washed my rig today and tire blacked the IROKs so shes all perty. Ready to fawk up for 4 days in HH!

[FaultLine350]

Dude that looks F*kin Bad ass. I wish mine were still stright :beer: .. I wish I was able to make it to BF this year. I cant because Of Summer school. If I miss a day I get dropped. I need this class to walk the stage next year..... Theres always next years BF. I deffently want to see the vids of that thing in the trap. You gotta take Before and After pics for Sure... :thumb:

Casey

[Twisted Whipz]

nice job on the floor. did you get the bumper done.

[jays68yak]

Na ill try to get that done tomorrow.

[Liftedassdodge]

crazy madman working in 100 degree heat on it

[Nosmog73]

crazy madman working in 100 degree heat on it
He was/isnt the only one...Only hotter here.. :pain:

[barbastard]

yep...I was out in it yesterday too...

[jays68yak]

Well lets see where my rig sits as of now.
1. I got the front crossmember/start of winch bumper fabbed up last night. Just need some bolts.DONE
2. Fixed the shifters so the allthread isnt flexing. As had to deal with a stripped stud on the 203 shifter thing. Said F it and just welded the bracket to it, too bad I did it backwards. Just means I need to lengthen the linkage for that rod, which can wait. DONE
3. Need to hook up power steering cooler.
4. Breather lines for the doubler and tranny
5. Need to redo rear dshaft so that I have a bit more compression out of it.
6. Fab up spare dshafts.
7. Radio


I think thats it.
:uh oh:

[jays68yak]

Anyone ever use this hose and its fittings?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AER%2DFCV0610&N=0&autoview=sku

[CaptainInsano]

Anyone ever use this hose and its fittings?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AER%2DFCV0610&N=0&autoview=sku

looks like the keg hose

[jays68yak]

:flipoff2:

[Hoss]

thoes are great for useing on atf lines xrp earls russle makes em there not hard to use and they might fix yout problem i was going to run that on my truck but i changed my mind i have to install a atf cooler besides the radatior so might some day

[k5LS2]

My power steering lines are made of that stuff, Mil grade stuff :beer: I use real Stainless steel braided line with XRP fittings mounted with rubber p clamps to locate the lines, seems to keep them away from the exhaust heat and makes them pretty much fire proof. I also located my trans cooler to the back of the truck to keep it away from the engine heat :pimp1:

[caliboy63]

i'm using it for my tranny lines, had al kinda of problems with the old hard lines the new ones (though $$$$$) have been free of headaches!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/bbgirltink/100_0041.jpg

[k5LS2]

Caliboy, Your fan must have a hard time pulling air through the bed side!

:flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

Caliboy, your lines look more like crimped hydralic lines.....?????

[caliboy63]

Caliboy, Your fan must have a hard time pulling air through the bed side!

:flipoff2:

it pulls from insdie the bed and pushes towards the bedside :flipoff2:

[caliboy63]

Caliboy, your lines look more like crimped hydralic lines.....?????

they are...oh, thought that's what you were talking about... :p

[jays68yak]

Caliboy, your lines look more like crimped hydralic lines.....?????

they are...oh, thought that's what you were talking about... :p

:bash:

[jays68yak]

Jeremy did you pass your luck onto me this past 2 weeks? I go to order all the fittings and hose, and summit is short one fitting. Otherwise I would beable to get it together this weekend. Looks like it will be next weekend at the earliest.

[CaptainInsano]

Caliboy, Your fan must have a hard time pulling air through the bed side!

:flipoff2:

it pulls from insdie the bed and pushes towards the bedside :flipoff2:

push/pull no matter, the physics of it do not allow proper air flow for cooling.

[caliboy63]

hmm, funny how it doesn't overheat, not even in 117 degrees :flipoff2: :chaz:

[Esteban86K5]

I would say that it doesn't overheat siimply because its so far away from the engine. The fluid probably cools going to and from the cooler. If you took the fan off it still probably wouldn't overheat. :poke:

[jays68yak]

I would say that it doesnt overheat cuz you didnt run tank. :flipoff2:

[CaptainInsano]

I would say that it doesnt overheat cuz you didnt run tank. :flipoff2:

:rofl: :zakk:

Might be hotter at the mall parking lot though no? :flipoff2:

[caliboy63]

I would say that it doesn't overheat siimply because its so far away from the engine. The fluid probably cools going to and from the cooler. If you took the fan off it still probably wouldn't overheat. :poke:

naw the fan deffinetly kicks on every once in a while on the trail or in heavy traffic when it's hot, but why put it against the radiator when the radiator is usually running hotter then you want your tranny to run. Wow look at everyone jumping on the "anti-caliboy design" bandwagon again :flipoff2:

[Esteban86K5]

but why put it against the radiator when the radiator is usually running hotter then you want your tranny to run.

I never said to put it against the radiator. I like the idea of having it out back. I just think it needs some room to breathe a little.


Wow look at everyone jumping on the "anti-caliboy design" bandwagon again :flipoff2:

We need to razz you up some so we know how well you take it. Then once your "one of us" we'll play nicer. :flipoff2: :beer:

[jays68yak]

Or not.

[CaptainInsano]

I would say that it doesn't overheat siimply because its so far away from the engine. The fluid probably cools going to and from the cooler. If you took the fan off it still probably wouldn't overheat. :poke:

Wow look at everyone jumping on the "anti-caliboy design" bandwagon again :flipoff2:

Well with that in mind that is some nice safe wiring by the gas filler too. :flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

Well its offical, it was the tranny cooler line. Went out and pulled the old cooler and lines, then installed what I had of the new stuff. Still need to more fittings that I should have by next weekend. Ill also be installing a second fan on the front since Nate was having so many issues. Once I had the old stuff off I started looking at it. This is what I found.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5945-2/DSCN2207.JPG

[crewcabroller]

So is the tranny ok?

[jays68yak]

Ill find out later this week when i get the other 2 fittings.

[caliboy63]

shitty deal

[Cracker]

I'm sure GM will warranty it. :flipoff2:

[DuneRunner]

That sucks Bro, at least you found the problem.

[caliboy63]

yeah I wanted to see 'er at BF, well get it going and maybe you can head up to cow with us the weekend fallowing this one :D :beer: (if my suspension is done that is)

[jays68yak]

Flex isnt what I was hoping for. Tire is rubbing in the back, shock on the passanger side is bottomed out in the front.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5958-2/DSCN2210.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5962-2/DSCN2211.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5974-2/DSCN2214.JPG
Maybe I should cut those run flats down. :unsure:
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/5950-2/DSCN2208.JPG

[Twisted Whipz]

naw it good the way it is. what'd your neighbors say though.

[jays68yak]

"You can go higher"

[barbastard]

“You might be a redneck if…….you’re wheeling in your front yard.”

Yeah…your neighbors gotta love you…..especially in Danville. :rolleyes:

BTW…like the paint job…turned out nice. So, by the looks of these pics you got it running? What’s the story dude…inquiring minds want to know.

[jays68yak]

Yeah its moving. I got the remaining fittings last night. Tossed them on and took Mikey for a ride around the block. Tranny is making some kinda of not so grinding grinding noise, and its not shifting into 3rd. I think its a bit low since the bigger cooler has been added and the vaccuum line is cracked. I'll mess with it more this week and see whats up.

The next door neighbor came out and watched me drive up the tree. He kept telling me that I could make it higher. :blink: I was like not with out rolling it. I need to figure out why the rear isnt flexing all the great.

[barbastard]

I need to figure out why the rear isnt flexing all the great.

You need more junk in the trunk!!! :pimp2: :pimp3:

Seriously, maybe with all the new body work you’ve done you don’t have enough weight on the back to load down the springs. Similar to Bare in the mog….that thing doesn’t even begin to flex until you get about 800-1000#’s in the back because the springs are so stiff. Also…..didn’t you weld a bunch of tubing to the frame in the back and front and then connect the tubing? You could have a case of “RB-itis”. Isn’t he having problems with limited flex now because he tied his cage and what not into the frame?

Regardless…..good to hear it’s running…kind of. Least your tranny is showing potential that it might come around and give you some love.

[jays68yak]

Front is what is all tied in. The rear doesnt really have anything back there. I think part of it is weight but more then that its shocks and driveshaft that causing it. I dont think I have enough compression on the drivshaft. I want to swap out the front shocks for something with a shorter body so it doesnt bottom out like it is. I didnt realize that I had as much room as I do.

[barbastard]

Pull the shocks and the suspected offending shaft and flex it out and see how it does then.

Then you should know pretty quickly what is limiting the travel. Plus….you can always pull a leaf or two out of the rear springs if need be. Also…gotta figure in that the rear is going to weigh more once you get a full fuel cell, the rest of the tube work/flatbed installed and all your gear back there.

[CaptainInsano]

Dude I had the same problem on mine after hacking the rear off, I pulled the smallest (which is also the stiffest) leave out and it flexes way better now. Just remove the damn clamps from the springs or better extend em like I did on the rear of mine. I should hve done the front before BF too, wouldn't have that bent spring in the rear. :mad:

[caliboy63]

i made a set of 12" superlift springs flex like mad after doing the same. Also, grease teh srpings while you got them apart, doesnt' help flex but makes it ride a little bit nicer. Use the super heavy duty NASTY grease if you are going to do it.

[barbastard]

Also, grease teh srpings while you got them apart, doesnt' help flex but makes it ride a little bit nicer. Use the super heavy duty NASTY grease if you are going to do it.

I disagree with that.

My buddy Darren did that with the springs on his scout…..it may have helped it ride a little bit better but it was a monumental mess. After 1 trail run the springs looked like almond rocha….they collected so much dirt, grit, dust, branches, leaves etc. His springs looked like an organic matter magnet. It worked so well, they effectively camouflaged his springs :rolleyes: . He ended up installing new springs all around (not because of the grease problem) and did NOT grease them again.

Just my $.02.

[caliboy63]

Also, grease teh srpings while you got them apart, doesnt' help flex but makes it ride a little bit nicer. Use the super heavy duty NASTY grease if you are going to do it.

I disagree with that.

My buddy Darren did that with the springs on his scout…..it may have helped it ride a little bit better but it was a monumental mess. After 1 trail run the springs looked like almond rocha….they collected so much dirt, grit, dust, branches, leaves etc. His springs looked like an organic matter magnet. It worked so well, they effectively camouflaged his springs :rolleyes: . He ended up installing new springs all around (not because of the grease problem) and did NOT grease them again.

Just my $.02.

I totally agree with you, that grease is nasty...BUT...that's why you have to spend the time to clean the shit off the side before you take them out. So the only grease is what's inbetween the springs. grease them, drive it around the block a few times and wipe them down with a rag then assault them with tons of brake cleaner till they look clean and no more mess. It does help a bit, i've done it to a few trucks and they all seem to notice a difference. Kinda like teflon pads but better cause it covers teh hole spring not just the end. You can also hit hte ends of your springs with the grinder and give them a tapered end so there is less resistance.

[crewcabroller]

Or you could just get some decent springs...

[CaptainInsano]

maybe if I grease the sides of my rig the poison oak will leave me alone. :uh oh:

[barbastard]

maybe if I grease the sides of my rig the poison oak will leave me alone. :uh oh:

Now that's a good idea :unsure: . Try it out and if it works.....I'm all about it. I don't care if my rig looks like the La Brea tar pits on wheels.....if it means I don't get PO anymore....fuck...where do I sign?

[caliboy63]

Or you could just get some decent springs...

that's the way to go fo'sho, but if your wheelin on the cheap then the grease will help. Heck grease the new good springs too...grease it all muahahaha :blink:

[Ryan B.]

Yup, i figured out on the rti ramp my rear shocks are limiting my flex.. need to relocate/get longer shocks.

[sr175]

Ryan- thats a redneck limiting strap. Just keep the shocks as is. Besides they would provide good carnage when they become a redneck bump stop and break.

[jays68yak]

Ok fixed the vaccuum line and added another quart of fuild. Its still making a grinding sound in the tranny. Not sure what it is, but I think its internal. It did shift into 3rd gear. I cant tell if the tranny is popping out of gear when letting off the gas or if its the engine brake thanks to the doubler. I also need to redo the wiring to the fan. I guess it got a bit warm and shorted itself to another wire and it wouldnt turn off with the switch. :unsure:

[gr8pumkin]

Uhhhhh thats not good :blink:

[jays68yak]

Well I took it out to carnegie for a bit today. I think I drove around for maybe 15 mins. Once the tranny warms up it starts slipping and wont shift into second. On the drive home I started thinking about rebuilding the th400 that I just got this week, then thought for the price I would pay to get it rebuilt I could swap in a 465 and not worry about the tranny anymore. This stupid tranny thing has kept me from wheeling all year. It blows. So it looks like I blew $250 on a tranny cooler and its lines to only use it basicly once for about 15 mins. I guess you live and learn. Time to save up and get a 465.

Anyone have a link to info or parts list for the hydro conversion? Im thinking I should swap to the 32 spline output at the same time. Then I dont need to change the 203 input and it will all be beef. I dont see me getting this done till the end of the year if that.

[crewcabroller]

Just got to get it done before October, you can do it! :p

[Nosmog73]

Anyone have a link to info or parts list for the hydro conversion? Im thinking I should swap to the 32 spline output at the same time. Then I dont need to change the 203 input and it will all be beef. I dont see me getting this done till the end of the year if that.

Go to www.partsamerica.com and print out these part numbers and tak into the store and they price match (kragen) ..

Part Number: SC37791 Raybestos Clutch Slave Cylinder..54.99
Part Number: BH38559 Raybestos Brake Hose: PG Plus..49.99
Part Number: 2839732 Raybestos Clutch Master Cylinder...35.99
Pioneer Prods. Clutch Fork Part Number: CF116...17.99

The bellhousing is going to be a bitch to find but I seam to have good luck finding them so If I find one I will call you.. :2thumbs:

And Eric has this..465 with everything to swap it over IIRC the 2wd is a 32 spline

2wd 465 four speed trans. $50.00. I have all the parts to convert to a 4 speed. I swapped out the stick for an auto in an 80 GM and saved the parts.
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7860

Then you need the ever so hard to find 465-203 adapter and I know someone that has one all painted up and ready to go... :roll: :pimp2:

[Nosmog73]

Call this place in stockton..

A&M in stockton 1-209-982-4146

The stock numbers are
161865
230865
287855
278865

Not sure on the $$$$
Email is
sales@AandMAutoDismantler.com

[UseYourBlinker]

Just sell the fawking thing Jay.. :flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

Just got to get it done before October, you can do it! :p

Why Im riding shot gun with Nate, My rig isnt going anyways.

[jays68yak]

The bellhousing is going to be a bitch to find but I seam to have good luck finding them so If I find one I will call you.. :2thumbs:



Give me info on this, what trucks would it be in? Years? I might hit up the yards next weekend if Im bored.

[Nosmog73]

IIRC 85,86-to 88..
They will look like this

http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album53/hydro_bell_2.jpg
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album53/hydro_bell.jpg
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album53/hydro_465_bell.jpg

They can be in c1500 2wds too with the V6..Old School dist trucks like that Does not have to be a V8 the bellhousing is the same..

[Nosmog73]

I have a flywheel you can have also if you want... :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

I need a flywheel for a 454 ie a BBC. :uh oh:

[barbastard]

Looks like you’re going the way of the darkside. :evil3:

But…glad you at least have it figured out as to what you need to do to get it back on the trails. Sucks you had to spend so much time/money/effort dicking around with the auto to get it to this point. :(

So…..should I pencil in a new years trip to HH for your “coming out party” :eyebrows: ? HH in the winter is a beautiful thing….NO P.O. baby!!!! :2thumbs:

On a side note...if you want to recoup some of your costs....I happen to know someone who would be intersted in that tranny cooler and lines!! :rolleyes: I'll call you later today to talk about it.....

[jays68yak]

Not sure I want to off the cooler just yet. Half tempted to toss it on the tow rig. I know it would be a good idea for the tranny. I can also toss the temp gauge in there to.

[barbastard]

True...well...if you don't do that lets talk.

[jays68yak]

Well got started on the manual swap today. Pulled the doubler and th400 out once again. Also pulled the gas tank, its stand, and the remaining part of the blazer bed. Going to be installing the fuel cell up closer to the cab. That way Ill have storage room for camping gear down the road.

Bye bye you POS. :2flipoff:
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6057-2/DSCN2245.JPG
No more gas tank. Basicly it was in the way of the rear winch, plus I had the fuel cell waiting to go in.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6081-2/DSCN2243.JPG
New tranny. I pray that this one works and I dont have to pull it all out again.:blink: It does shift into every gear.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6085-2/DSCN2244.JPG
Bring back the void.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6089-2/DSCN2246.JPG

[crewcabroller]

Pull the PTO covers on the trans and check it out. I had one that shifted through all the gears and looked great but was trashed inside, ask Chaz :unsure: :uh oh:

[jays68yak]

Will do once I get around to cleaning it. Mr grinder and wire wheel are going to have a nice work out.

[DuneRunner]

if you want to get a good amount of that oil off, also try Oven Cleaner before you hit it with the wheel. Works wonders, just don't breathe that shizz or get it on your fingers. It will take all the oil out of your skin and make it seem that you have no finger prints for days. I get it at the dollar store.

[jays68yak]

mmmm tranny smells lemonie fresh.

[gr8pumkin]

Wheres the pics????? It can't be lemony fresh with out proof :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

Its still in the lemony soaky phase. Im going to let them sit till I get to them.

[jays68yak]

Heres your pic.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6111-2/DSCN2259.JPG

[gr8pumkin]

That looks good, I can hear the leamony freshness from here :beer:

[jays68yak]

That looks good, I can hear the leamony freshness from here :beer:

Not sure how you can hear lemony freshness, but ok. :2thumbs:

[gr8pumkin]

I'm six beers deep, I can smell or do anything I want :beer: And Don't you know that New computers have a scent despencers.. God newbies

[k5LS2]

Jeremy, You just made my day with that above post :D :D :beer:

[DuneRunner]

NICE! Looks Like the O.C. works again!
Seems as though the lemon scent is getting to ol'Jer.

[jays68yak]

For the most part it worked. altho it took the dirt and turned it into mud. :uh oh:

[stunnin650]

that looks kinda heavy

[jays68yak]

that looks kinda heavy

Did you say you were going to bench press it in to place while I put the bolts in?

[stunnin650]

ya i'll get right over there

[gr8pumkin]

Jerry You can do IT :2thumbs:

[jays68yak]

update?
Going to add some rubber between the mounts and the radiator. Plus paint the mounts. And before anyone asks, the tfan is off to one side cuz Ill be adding a pusher fan on the back side of the radiator to push air out the part missed by the tfan.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/d/6320-2/DSCN2343.JPG
Cell will come back a bit, need to remove the old bed mounts as they are keeping the cell from coming forward, errr back as is.
http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/d/6328-2/DSCN2345.JPG

[barbastard]

Why is the tarus fan off to the side? :rolleyes: :flipoff2:















Seriously though....looking good. I be the progress feels good. Your mount for the radiator, is it removable? That is, can you get the radiator out without having to cut the mounts or did you more or less weld it in?

[jays68yak]

Its removeable yo. 4 bolts and its off from the top. If I just welded it on I would be kinda screwed when I go to put the rubber in and paint it.

[gr8pumkin]

Looks good, the gas cell definetly will protect it for most of the fly missles :2thumbs: Is one taurus fan going to be enough to pull enough air through the radiator or should you have a pusher and a puller?

Just wondering

[jays68yak]

Looks good, the gas cell definetly will protect it for most of the fly missles :2thumbs: Is one taurus fan going to be enough to pull enough air through the radiator or should you have a pusher and a puller?

Just wondering

:argue:

I said in the post I was going to add a pusher on the part that is not covered by the tfan. And its a 10".

[gr8pumkin]

Shee's over read something and someone gets his paties in a bunch Looks good, can't wait to see her wheel again. :thumb:

[Nosmog73]

So what about the area that that one fan isnt going to cool are you going to address that soon before it over heats ar you putting anouther fan in too..Or what..

[UseYourBlinker]

Looking good. I can't wait till I tear into my ride very soon. Is one fan gonna be enuff Jay?

[barbastard]

So what about the area that that one fan isnt going to cool are you going to address that soon before it over heats ar you putting anouther fan in too..Or what..

oh boy...hopefully you're kidding with this question. :rolleyes:

[jays68yak]

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

[jays68yak]

Well got paid this weekend so I ordered up the remaining bushings for the crossmembers, and all the fuel line and fittings. Should have them tomorrow. Also got my flywheel this past weekend from my favorite fab shop, pacificfab.net (http://www.pacificfab.net). Also decided to try and stuff the other tfan on the radiator. This week should see some forward progress. Would be sweet if I could start the truck again this weekend. Altho more then likly it will be another week before that.

[barbastard]

What happened with the old flywheel? Did that guy give your money back or did he tell you to go pound sand?

[jays68yak]

I sent it back to him last week. I got an email from paypal saying that I was refunded my money today. Looks like he refunded the whole thing.

[jays68yak]

YAY! Progress. :banger:
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6332-2/DSCN2346.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6336-2/DSCN2347.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6348-2/DSCN2350.JPG
Almost flat. The crossmembers will prob hang down a bit farther tho.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6356-2/DSCN2352.JPG
And a shot inside and why I cant go up much farther.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6344-2/DSCN2349.JPG

[jays68yak]

My take on the 205 isolator/torque mount. The bar that goes between the frame rails is also going to be the rear of the doubler mount.
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6360-2/DSCN2358.JPG
http://pnkages.com/gallery/d/6364-2/DSCN2359.JPG

[k5LS2]

:drool: triangles

Looks good man, giter done :beer: