rules and regulations

[Twisted Whipz]

possible suggestions include:

limiting participation to your self and two guest parties(aka. 3 truck loads and gear)

manditory sign in and adherance to basic courtisey rules(setup by official club members)

designated runs at certian times(pre scheudueled)

to be continued...
just thinking aloud

[jays68yak]

there was something about a slow for the cone zone.

[Twisted Whipz]

yeah i know the banshee may have annoyed a select few to scared to ride on it. feel the fury.

[Burt4x4]

The slow zone should be right before you enter the U of the campground...like were that lil hill/bump is..I guess the stage and uper bathroom..anything behind there is fair game...sound right?

[Twisted Whipz]

that sounds fair. i just like to go fast past camp like at pismo. Pismo rules

[Burt4x4]

I'm gald I was on my trailer...if someone was to crash into my tent my trailer would takum out instead of them taking me out :D :chaz:

back on topic No beer while wheelin...leave it at camp :pimp2: :beer: :beer:

[Shaggy]

that sounds fair. i just like to go fast past camp like at pismo. Pismo rules

One reason that I don't like Pismo much anymore. I don't feel safe bringing my kids or dogs there because of all the a-holes who apparantly feel that there aren't enough sand dunes to ride in so they have to do ride fast right next to my camp.

[CaptainInsano]

that sounds fair. i just like to go fast past camp like at pismo. Pismo rules

One reason that I don't like Pismo much anymore. I don't feel safe bringing my kids or dogs there because of all the a-holes who apparantly feel that there aren't enough sand dunes to ride in so they have to do ride fast right next to my camp.

Pismo sucks, never seen so many Fawk Tards in one place at one time. I used to live in Fresno, Pismo is dumb arse mecca for those fawkers. My ex and her family loved that place...nuff said.

[jays68yak]

I dont like pismo but I have WAY different reasons. :unsure:

[barbastard]

Some ideas:

1.More planned trail runs, with posted times, locations, etc.
2.I like the idea of having it being open to only club members and 2 guests (rigs) of their choice. That way we have a better way of controlling what people attend AND would be able to hold people more accountable for their (or their guests) actions. Which should encourage people to only invite friends that they know they can trust and that will adhere to the rules.
3.No drinking and wheeling. At least for the driver of the rig. Passengers can booze it up.
4.No speeding in camp….goes for gokarts, quads, etc.
5.To speed up the raffle, I suggest rather than using tickets with numbers on them, using a ticket you can put your name on that way all that has to be done when a ticket is selected is call out the person’s name. That should eliminate the hassle of everyone reviewing ALL their tickets, and it should speed everything up. However…that does assume everyone will know their name when it’s called out…if you don’t….you don’t deserve the prize in the first place.
6.Have Jason and Mikey bring the stripper pole down for some HH afterhours use and fun. (if nothing else we might be able to get Joe to dance on it)

[jays68yak]

on 6.....someone else needs to provide the whores.

[Nosmog73]

Passengers can booze it up.

That will be a big no no...if on the trail ANY open container can get us booted..the ranger will not care if it is a driver or passenger ..This is one thing that will get ANYONE kicked out of the fest because it will get us ALL KICKED OUT..
Not trying to be a dick but this is going to be a no-bend the rules (when we get them hashed out) and will be ENFORCED and if some feathers get ruffled then so be it
One isnt ruining it for all..
If you want to drink..do it in camp..Leave it at the camp..We have a NAME now with the rangers as a group to watch over and they will be watching us.. :2thumbs:

[barbastard]

Passengers can booze it up.

That will be a big no no...if on the trail ANY open container can get us booted..the ranger will not care if it is a driver or passenger ..This is one thing that will get ANYONE kicked out of the fest because it will get us ALL KICKED OUT..
Not trying to be a dick but this is going to be a no-bend the rules (when we get them hashed out) and will be ENFORCED and if some feathers get ruffled then so be it
One isnt ruining it for all..
If you want to drink..do it in camp..Leave it at the camp..We have a NAME now with the rangers as a group to watch over and they will be watching us.. :2thumbs:

That’s fine…I agree.

I meant they (passengers) can booze it up at camp and still go our riding around with a sober driver if they choose to do so.

[Nosmog73]

Passengers can booze it up.

That will be a big no no...if on the trail ANY open container can get us booted..the ranger will not care if it is a driver or passenger ..This is one thing that will get ANYONE kicked out of the fest because it will get us ALL KICKED OUT..
Not trying to be a dick but this is going to be a no-bend the rules (when we get them hashed out) and will be ENFORCED and if some feathers get ruffled then so be it
One isnt ruining it for all..
If you want to drink..do it in camp..Leave it at the camp..We have a NAME now with the rangers as a group to watch over and they will be watching us.. :2thumbs:

That’s fine…I agree.

I meant they (passengers) can booze it up at camp and still go our riding around with a sober driver if they choose to do so.

I knew what you meant but this is going to be a hard sell rule when they come out...so just kinda laying the ground work...lol
:beer:
And no one is taking away your jack and coke...lol

[Shaggy]

(Lots of words...)



*Stands up and starts applauding...*

You've echoed many of my thoughts, if anything I would be more harsh. When discussions on planning next years' BF start in earnest, I will make my opinions known loud and clear.

I'll say this - I would not bring my family to future Blazerfests if it's the same kind of environment as this year. We've always billed ourselves as a family oriented club, and BF '05 did not strike me as a family event.

[Twisted Whipz]

well, not that i disagree, but i do have some problems with the lack of guide lines. last year was a free for all becuase no one had any idea as to what the environment was supposed to be. many members and guests were first timers and sought the excitement of being with friends, wheeling, and sometimes getting rowdy. maybe we need to create sections for different groups and such. personally i left the wife at home last year expecting a free for all, like so many pismo trips. i am sorry for those families who showed up, but we were not warned to have politeness in mind and nor were we advised on the full camping arangements.

the good thing however is we can now share ideas and lay out all of our concerns on the table. personally the small group i've been around is a great group. we get along. we have some personal responsibility, but no real hold backs to basically partying. i'm sure giving the chance to be rowdy we'll take it. and there in lies the problem. some do and some don't. this year will most likely be different too. i plan on bringing the wife and hopefully i'll have my own rig to wheel. but i doubt i'll be so reserved as to eliminate all swearing and rowdyness.

the important things are that we have fun, stay safe, and as a group protect our way of life by coming together. i'd even like to see our numbers grow reasonably.

[seschev3]

As a none member and an attendee to the 05' blazerfest, not to ruffle any feathers, but most of the crude remarks seemed to come from club members that I noticed. And most of it is just because you guys are good friends and like to talk shit like the rest of us. I did not bring my kids, but anytime you have that many people and alcohol, there is going to be rowdiness. Plus when you do not have kids, your perspective of respect and responsibility can be much differrent. I know I have totally changed since having kids.

On to another point, are none members going to be unwelcome if they are not invited or knowing of a club member?

Sign up sheets and times for runs would be great. I may have missed this if it was available. Aside from the poker run, if I wanted to wheel, I would just get in and go. I feel that it would be more fun and a better experience to wheel with more people.

As for welcomeness,I did meet and help a couple of members, but was mostly shined off like who the hell are you. All I am trying to say is if you want to clan up as a club that is great, but if you are trying to invite people into the club, you should make them feel more welcome.

Just throwing out some opinions from someome on the outside.

[KidJethro]

Lots of good ideas.

I think limiting it to club members only would be a big mistake. (I think someone suggested that) There wouldn't be much of a turnout otherwise. Part of the fun is wandering from camp fire to camp fire at night and hanging out. Wouldn't be much fun with only 1 campfire. Also alot more fun to have 15 rigs on a "trail ride" or the poker run instead of 5. The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.


The raffle process needs a serious overhaul...Every year during the raffle, my bloodpressure gets high enough to blow a gasket. (The writing your name on the raffle tickets is an awesome idea. Kudos to whoever came up with it.) The thing that needs some re-thinking is the number callers...I know that Dan likes to have the girls do it all the time, but it really needs to be someone with some pipes. The girls voices just don't carry well over a crowd of drunk and anxious wheelers. 'specially if your in the back of the crowd. We need to have someone who's voice carries, so we don't have to ask for the # to be re-peated 4 times. Raffle takes waaaaay to long....I was sitting in my rig next to Ken who was sitting in his, I looked over and he had fallen asleep... :blink:

[barbastard]

I’ll take the props for coming up with the name on the raffle tickets idea. :D :iceman: I think it’s a GREAT idea and will hopefully be implemented as well as Joe’s idea for having Barry White read off the raffle tickets or at least the girls using a microphone. I think between those two things the raffle should move quite a bit faster.

I’m glad this discussion is taking place and people are providing input on it. I can understand what is being said about the overall level of “vulgarity”, “crudeness”, “crass” and general “dumbassness” that occurred at last years blazerfest and particularly the raffle. I’ll be the first to say that I no doubt played a part in this, and generally am not too ashamed at it. If anything I’d say that maybe while at the raffle it should be toned down to a more suitable level for the mixed company, I can see the logic there. However, at the campsite the people that want to tie one on and party it up have that right just as much as the people that want to bring their kids to BF and have a nice family outing and get to bed early. I whole heartedly support sanctioning different areas of the campsite for these different groups. Someone with a family that wants to get to bed early DEFINITELY doesn’t want to be camped next to me and vice versa. No reason the two groups can’t coexist together. True…my position and general attitude may in fact change once I have kids…but fact of the matter is, right now I don’t have any and when I attend my club’s ONE big event of the year with my buds…I want to get a little saucy and whoop it up till 3am then wheel the piss out of my junk the next day.

As far as having this open to only members…I’ll reiterate my position on that one: This should be open to members and their invited guests. Unfortunately I think that’s the only way to protect the club from possible negative repercussions from guests or randoms that check the board and come out. As the rangers see that EVERYONE in the campsite is affiliated with the club, the club will get the shaft for ANYONE that gets stupid that weekend and pisses the rangers off. If we keep it to just members and invited guests…at least there is some recourse of action if someone gets stupid while there, not to mention we have a better idea of the level and type of people that are attending the event and a little more influence on them to take it easy (if necessary). Much like the “real world”, the bad apples in the barrel take the fun out of everything and are the cause of MANY ridiculous rules and laws…but that’s the way society has become.

If you’re not a member and want to come out, it’s quite simple. Post on the board and start talking to members, meet some of us. It won’t take long and it’ll be pretty clear to both you and the member(s) if you’re the type of person that fits in with the club. If you’re not…you most likely wouldn’t want to be there anyways so no love lost. If you are, you’ll most likely get invited. It’s pretty simple if you ask me.

[gr8pumkin]

When I lived back east and wheeled upper and lower tellico, the club I ran with had a simple way to insure the people who were there were suppose to be there. They used stickers on all the vehicals, it was a plain yellow sticker which had the clubs intitals on it and two blank lines below that. The first line was who they were and how many people were with them, the second was which club member they were there with. This would help with security and the rangers who know with one quick look if they were with blazerfest or not.

The sticker goes on all vehicals, tow rigs, cars trucks, ect...

[seschev3]

On to another point, are none members going to be unwelcome if they are not invited or knowing of a club member?

As for welcomeness,I did meet and help a couple of members, but was mostly shined off like who the hell are you. All I am trying to say is if you want to clan up as a club that is great, but if you are trying to invite people into the club, you should make them feel more welcome.
Now please don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, believe me man I do, and correct me if I missed the post because I searched....but don't you agree that if you show up without a member, and you're not invited by a member, and you don't tell anyone you're coming...that it's going to be more than a little awkward breaking the ice?


A little sidebar: are you coming out to Knoxville on Monday?[/quote]

I did not personally know any members, but did sign up and say that I was coming on both this site and CK5. I was just commenting in general. I am pretty understanding and not easily disturbed. I just wanted to mention what I noticed to help you guys with your decisions.

[Nosmog73]

seschev3 did sign up on ck5 and here that he was attending...Which we made the invite to people of ck5 too :2thumbs: I saw you roll into camp and do say sorry for never finding you and saying hello...BTW CLEAN ride too...lol
But yes the gate does need to be closed bannered I still do not know who was camped in the area right by the gate...
The sticker idea is good too.. :2thumbs:

[IceMan]

(Lots of words...)



*Stands up and starts applauding...*

You've echoed many of my thoughts, if anything I would be more harsh. When discussions on planning next years' BF start in earnest, I will make my opinions known loud and clear.

I'll say this - I would not bring my family to future Blazerfests if it's the same kind of environment as this year. We've always billed ourselves as a family oriented club, and BF '05 did not strike me as a family event.

I believe I already voiced my opinion on this one.
The reason I didn't come to this BF was the previous one.
I want to bring my wife to a nice family event and the year before was not so i didn't want to risk it this time since she was there the year before and did not like it.
I am glad I didn't come.
I agree with the guest's point: when you don't have anyone with you like kids or wife you tend to be more carefree and rowdy, I know we have a lot of gatherings in HH for wheeling, we have one BF a year, lets make it a nice family event and leave the BS and foul behavior to small outings that do not necessarily cary our clubs name.
:2thumbs: :beer:
We can have a good time while still being civil, I know because I do that a lot with other events.
:beer:
IceMan

[dogman]

I like the idea of an open invite, cus as a newbie here; that is how the club will grow.
Good ideas are coming out on the raffel, and controlling the who is who sticker :2thumbs: is cool to!
sounds like it could help fix a few of the issues.
speeding up the raffel is a real good idea.. :D
I can't speak for all the rowdyness, but that might help keep it down.
If all we need to hear is our screen name called out.
That woke me up when Dan called me to pick the next winner, alot better than what is the frakkinNu_urp_mber!

Nate, I don't mind camping near you; :uh oh: just don't camp near Jerry.
too bad you hate sand so much. :flipoff2: PPPIIIIIIISSSSMMMMOOOOOOO is my kind a FUN!!! BF#1
Have Jason and Mikey bring the stripper pole down for some HH afterhours use and fun. (if nothing else we might be able to get Joe to dance on it) Make sure you wake me up for that..

On the family issues of any embassment to the Club caused by Nate, and WhosYour Drinker's type of Party style..
If you think its a problem then maybe its time to send your kids to bed!
my kids have been exposed to the drunkin rowdy camping with my friends, all their life. and thats no excuse for improper behavior.
but, you cann't keep your eye on them all the time, unless your watching.. :unsure:
the kids at blazerfest are having to much FUN!
if something needs fixing, fix it but lets not mess them up any more!!
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album12/025_22A.jpg
I just noticed the little guy, behind burt's kid; is he taken a joe?

:pimp1:

Oh Ya, Im Your Boy LON, Happy New Year!!

[Burt4x4]

hahahaha Thats my boy :chaz: :2thumbs:

Yup that is Joe's 'pole' hahaha

[dogman]

Steve:
is this little guy one of your tribe ?

he's playin the Im joe game, in his deepest voice:
http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/album12/ImJoe2.jpg

:D

[Burt4x4]

hahahahaa LOL

I can't tell if that lil dude was Drunkguys hmm 'kid' Zack (girlfriends kid). Might be? cuz Zack is just a lil guy...duno?

[stunnin650]

Nate, I don't mind camping near you; :uh oh: just don't camp near Jerry.

haha that keeps people and the pigs out of my space

[barbastard]

Yeah...I think between your snoring and my drunken idiocy...we should be covered pretty well. No pigs or whiny neighbors will want to come bother us....I'm down!!!

[Twisted Whipz]

count my wife and i in for the rowdy crowd. i can sleep through anything and the old lady 'll just have to deal.

[UseYourBlinker]

On the family issues of any embassment to the Club caused by Nate, and WhosYour Drinker's type of Party style..



I was waiting for that. Look's like we are camping brother's Nate.

[Nosmog73]

Not trying kill the buzz but,
The whole reason for some rules and regs is that WE need to remember HOW CLOSE we really were to not being able to come back..
The rangers have taken a more in your face attitude to the park rules concerning alcohol and we have caught there attention 2 years running..
There will be rules to follow or leave..I am not trying to act like a jerk but I don't won't to have someone(member or non member) getting another open container or the like and ruining my chances of soming back..
This isnt meant as an attack to the people that want to have fun in camp but it needs to be repectfull of others as well :2thumbs:
:2thumbs:

[KidJethro]

What Mike says is correct...And he shouldn't have to say things like "I'm not tryin to be a jerk." He's just doin his job...if you get butt hurt over that, then kick rocks biaaatchh!!!

I know if I see an open container, I'm not gonna be nice about it. :blink:

[UseYourBlinker]

I know Mike is doin what he supposed to be doin. That's fine,and I'm OK wit dat. BTW-I got an open container right now,and I am hardcore webwheeling. That's OK right? :blink:

[Nosmog73]

What Mike says is correct...And he shouldn't have to say things like "I'm not tryin to be a jerk." He's just doin his job...if you get butt hurt over that, then kick rocks biaaatchh!!!

I know if I see an open container, I'm not gonna be nice about it. :blink:

Wow thanks joe...
I want to say for the record that no one has been butt hurt yet...But the rules and regs are not close to being done either..
Also I have no problemo with drinking in camp ...but if someone gets out of hand it will be dealt with as to not ruin THE CLUBS chances of coming back :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
We are on our 3rd strike and I refuse to see it come to that..If some do think I or anyone that says to them cool it down or what not are over reacting then they can leave I will not give the rangers a reason to give us all that 3rd strike..It will be that simple
We have peeps with family that want to come and we need to be respectfull of EVERONE there.. :2thumbs:

[UseYourBlinker]

Looking at the dates again. I will most likely not even be in Kaliphornia anyways....

[gokartergo]

Ok,, I have set back and watched this thread.. Now it is my turn.. Every year something has happened to my 4x4.. So next year I am bringing a backup. So I can get ought there and help police. We obviously haven’t done a good job of doing it on our own.. What I would like is.. All board of directors are like the police.. If they ask you to leave.. That is final.. There is no arguing with a BOD. I hate to be and hate to ask the BOD to do this. But we can not jeopardizes not being able to come back. I like the idea of the name on the tickets. Maybe what we can do is. When you purchase tickets. You will write your name down on a piece of paper.. We will then assign a number to your name. All you will have to do is write your number on the back of the ticket.. When we draw your name. We can look at the list and tell who’s it is.. On the speeding in camp.. We have all done it. Including me.. I will bring barricades this year with yellow caution tape. We will tape off from the grandstands to the trees. Making only one way in . From there threw camp will be a 5mph zone.. First is a warning then a asked to leave… On the limiting the amount of people. If we do this. We will drastically cut the amount of donations we get.. I really don’t like the idea of cutting the amount of people down.. But if the club wants to do this we can.. I enjoy meeting new people all the time… Has for the family attitude.. The only time that it has really gotten out of hand is during the raffle.. I have been thinking more and more about moving it to the morning.. I now it cuts into the wheelin time. But I am still pissed at the way some people where treated during the raffle. Mainly Jason getting booed. There was more. But that one sticks out the most.

[Burt4x4]

I think if a member wants to invite non-members with 4x4s this is OK. As all members already know they are responsable for their guest's actions.

All in all I think we have learned alot over the past years about club safty and respecting the rules at HH. Especially now that HH has changed their ways about policing the park. Last year was the first time in all the years I have been going to HH that I saw a cop on a motorcycle, pullin people over telling them to slow down and then if he sees the beer in the rig BAM! Yer busted..then we the club are BUSTED!

The fact we are all talking about this and this is out on the table...well there is an old saying:
Communication is the Key to Success!

So keep the desscussion going and Every Lil Thing Is Gonna Be Alright :2thumbs: :beer:

PS I LOVE BEER :beer: :beer: :beer: hehehhehee

Peace Out
Burt
:burt:

[dogman]

Dan quoted:
" I have been thinking more and more about moving it to the morning.. I know it cuts into the wheelin time."

just thinking out load about your idea Dan.

No one should be short on the wheeling, plenty of it all weekend.

It sounds good today, as it is raining and 58 degrees out.

but
July 22, 2006 say @ 9:45- the Sun has been up 4 hours & approaching 99 degrees.

Steve :burt: will have had Coffee & a four course breakfast fed to anyone standing near him, all finishing up. :D
1st :beer: & the Drunkguy will be UP.

Might be early for the nightshift to be up yet and a few noon Saturday arrivals.

Good time to annouce any group Run times,
and RTI Comp, poker run & Group Photo times.

Here is another suggestion:

Keep it on Saturday night, just accelerate the process:
Draw 90% the Numbers that win raffle prizes, done ahead.
Do the special Vendor sponsor introductions and Thanks.
Draw the top 10% sponsored Prizes hand them out do the thong and spinner type gag Prizes mixed in.
break out the 90% winner list
& annouce all the winner's come and get your stuff bags and Prizes.
let the Trade and Bartering begin..

one more:
make a sign posted the oneway out:

No Alcoholic Beverages beyond this Point, leave it at camp Or just Leave!!

:pimp1:

[Twisted Whipz]

i like the leave it here or just leave thing.

also a prior arrangement of times for the group pic would be awesome as quite a few rigs didn't make it down there on account of cooking dinner.

[gokartergo]

i like the leave it here or just leave thing.

also a prior arrangement of times for the group pic would be awesome as quite a few rigs didn't make it down there on account of cooking dinner.

That is my fault.. This was my 5th year of doing it. It has always been at the same time and place.. I just forget that there are new people there.. So for next year we will come up with some type of time table thingy..

[seschev3]

i like the leave it here or just leave thing

I second this one. I think we should have a trash can with the sign attached at the trail head just past the outhouses. A great reminder to keep the drink out of the rig.

A good timeline would be great to help people schedule meals and outings around events.

[gokartergo]

The problem with that is. If the ranger sees you get in the truck you are busted.. I think we need a rule that there is to be no alcohlic beverages in the truck at all. Once you are in camp..

[seschev3]

The problem with that is. If the ranger sees you get in the truck you are busted.. I think we need a rule that there is to be no alcohlic beverages in the truck at all. Once you are in camp..

I agree with you 100%. I was suggesting this as a last reminder before hitting the trail. When I use to wheel trucks, I would always have a bed full of cans from the night before ( vehicles sometimes become recycle bins). Just a last check point to clear the evidence before heading in.

[CaptainInsano]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

[jays68yak]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

IIRC if the Ranger sees you drink that beer, then get in the rig and drive off they can bust you. The cans being in the back can cause littering if not all picked up during a roll, ask me how I know. :unsure:

[gokartergo]

Dandwg was in the back of my pickup with a open beer.. The ranger pulled me over and threatened to write me up for open contanier. Now my understanding was that the back is not the cap so it was OK.. But I wasn't going to sit and argue with him at that point.. Dan poured out his beer and he let us go.. So I am not sure on what they can do and what they can't.. It is just better has a club not to have the beer in the trucks..

[KidJethro]

It is just better has a club not to have the beer in the trucks..

Shit, it's better as common sense. Not as a club. Thats just basic right vs wrong, black and white common sense. If theres alcholhol of any kind being consumed in a vehicle of any kind, your an idiot. No expceptions. x500,975,602,987 if your at a club/organized event. :rolleyes: :blink:

[CaptainInsano]

Yeah I understand that point and we adhere to it, however drinking a beer and then getting into the rig later is ridiculous, but if it's the rules its the rules. Was just clarifying so none of my buddies or I get busted down there at Blazerfest or any other time. We stopped midway last time on tank traps, got out and had a beer, talked a bit then continued. I don't get toasted and wheel, I do stupid enough shit without the brew.

[Burt4x4]

Irie Ray :thumb:
Babylon is full of illusions.
He who feels it knows it!

MarleyItes Live!
Burt

[CaptainInsano]

You guys know.....the option does exist to find another OHV place to hold the 'fest....granted for some it might not be as convenient....



I've never been harassed at Frank Raines, although the place is quite boring, too bad the creek trail isn't longer (it could be :pimp2:)

Hell Hollister is getting pretty boring IMO. Never been to BlazerFest though, so I am just talkin trails here.

BlazerFest Moonrocks would be cool. NEVER been harassed there, or 20 miles east west north or south of there. :thumb:

[IceMan]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

Yes they do that and I know because I got it.
I didn't even drink it I just poped it took a sip and then moved the truck 50 feet to my campsite and got out and he gave me the full sobriety test and then fucked me with a $375 open container tricket.
:pain:

[CaptainInsano]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

Yes they do that and I know because I got it.
I didn't even drink it I just poped it took a sip and then moved the truck 50 feet to my campsite and got out and he gave me the full sobriety test and then fucked me with a $375 open container tricket.
:pain:

damn thats weak dude

[gokartergo]

It is not that they are coming after us.. They are cracking down on everybody..

[k5LS2]

I think clear creek is a great place to wheel to :thumb: Its not much further than HH and 10 times bigger!!!,, It seemed there were alot of "regular" wheelers as well as all of us,, all in a tiny park?? Just my 2 cents

[gokartergo]

Clear creek is now closed during the summer.. Also they made it so you have to follow the trails like HH now..

[Twisted Whipz]

sooo many buzz kills now. wish i lived in nevada. they got cool guns and trucks roam as they almost damn near please.

[BRBoudreaux]

I know most of y'all ain't gonna agree with this statement, but they are looking out for you're well being, not to mention a certain image.........................

If you happen to be at the wheel and an accident occurs, they show up and find any alcohol in the vehicle, if you have any smell or indicators of drinking, or admit to having one or two, guess what, you're getting tested.

They are just attempting to prevent any alcohol related problems at the park. You, me, and the guy down the street may find zero tolerance a little harsh at times; but you should be prepared for stuff like that.

Lay down some ground rules for yourself before you attend. If it's an alcohol container of any sort and it's been opened and/or emptied, it stays away from the vehicles. The only time an alcohol container should be inside a vehicle is when it's completely sealed, sitting in the cooler in the back. Wait until the end of the day, when the rig is parked for the evening and you know for sure that you do not have to climb behind the wheel for ANYTHING, before you crack open that cold one. You may have a pretty good idea of what your tolerance level is, but someone that doesn't know you like the park rangers, do not know you and your tolerance level.

Any alcohol related incidents, and that includes those where a vehicle isn't involved, reflects on the club as a whole because they are the event host. I would imagine someone somewhere takes a look at the numbers of citations issued during an event and I would imagine that management has a threshold level of how many they will accept. When those numbers become unacceptable, guess what, Blazerfest at the Hallowed Hills of Hollister will be no more. Try to go to another state ran park and hold it; they just might talk to HH management and they will refuse permission.

All it takes is establishing some self discipline and realizing that your actions, while self initiated reflect back on the group as a whole...........
:2thumbs:

[seschev3]

It is pretty simple. No drink in the rig and respect your club.

Now let's talk about timelines and event ideas. The water in the pans at the steps was great for the poker run.

[jays68yak]

It is pretty simple. No drink in the rig and respect your club.

Now let's talk about timelines and event ideas. The water in the pans at the steps was great for the poker run.

Yeah that was a fun one. :unsure:

[Twisted Whipz]

oh sure, it was fun for you cause you didn't have water in your lap. ha ha.

i think we need more video, say one at each event.

[Twisted Whipz]

so is anyone gonna do a formal writeup and submit for club approval. or what? rules aren't any good if no one knows em and maybe we can arange camping sites based on noise and preferances.

[jays68yak]

I found a sign.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=465185

[4X4HIGH]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

This would be called drinking THEN driving and you will get busted.

If you have any alcohol on your breath and have empty cans/bottles in the bed you can be assured you will be tested and probably arrested even on the streets.

[CaptainInsano]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

This would be called drinking THEN driving and you will get busted.

If you have any alcohol on your breath and have empty cans/bottles in the bed you can be assured you will be tested and probably arrested even on the streets.

A couple beers over time is not going to make you over the limit. Just getting clear on Hollisters new rules. Moonrocks it is.

[4X4HIGH]

I agree with the no beer while wheelin thing so don't get my question wrong.

:unsure: so a side question about beer at HH now. So if a ranger sees any empties in the rig now they bust you? Even if you aren't drinkin any while driving? So say you wheel to the top of 5 fingers, wanna brewsky and enjoy the view, toss the empty in the rig (so as to not litter), and drive down, ranger stops you and tickets you for open container? They can't even do that on the freeways if its a pickup.

Just trying to understand here and make sure I/we don't get busted out there.

This would be called drinking THEN driving and you will get busted.

If you have any alcohol on your breath and have empty cans/bottles in the bed you can be assured you will be tested and probably arrested even on the streets.

A couple beers over time is not going to make you over the limit. Just getting clear on Hollisters new rules. Moonrocks it is.

You do realize that you don't have to be "over the limit" to get a ticket and or arrested. Any alcohol in your system while you're behind the wheel can get you arrested. If you're over the limit it is a given but if below the limit you still have a chance of a ticket or arrested. If you don't believe me then go ask a cop.

[sr175]

This seems like a simple thing. Wake up get some B'fast. Get plenty of fluids in ya. Go wheeling all day, bring some water or soda or something along those lines. Come back to camp and bring out the booze if you wish to do that. You will not have any problems if we kept to that. No figuring out what the gray line is. If ya want to drink during the day then stay in camp until ya get it out of the system and keep the bottles in camp.

[Burt4x4]

So to help clear things up.
Leave all beer at camp, leave all emptys at camp. If not then be prepared to leave.
Take it or Leave it
Act like a tree and leave
hahahaha

POW PING DING DAN ZING ZANG DING A LING BOOOOOM!
:burt:
:crazy:

[DieTryingK5]

no booze, but i'm assuming they wont tolerate a big cloud of smoke in my rig either.

[gokartergo]

This seems like a simple thing. Wake up get some B'fast. Get plenty of fluids in ya. Go wheeling all day, bring some water or soda or something along those lines. Come back to camp and bring out the booze if you wish to do that. You will not have any problems if we kept to that. No figuring out what the gray line is. If ya want to drink during the day then stay in camp until ya get it out of the system and keep the bottles in camp.

That's it right there.. :2thumbs:

[sr175]

no booze, but i'm assuming they wont tolerate a big cloud of smoke in my rig either.
depends on the smoke :D

[DieTryingK5]

no booze, but i'm assuming they wont tolerate a big cloud of smoke in my rig either.
depends on the smoke :D

if its any other kind of smoke the blazer is prob on fire, in that case i would hope for a little attention.

[jays68yak]

Trust me in that case you get a lot of attention.

[Twisted Whipz]

even if its the ground leading up to your truck on fire you get attention just ask ryanb

[barbastard]

even if its the ground leading up to your truck on fire you get attention just ask ryanb

That was pretty damn funny..... :D

[Twisted Whipz]

DUDE what are you doing? don't do that. you tryin to catch my truck on fire? damn. (fire extinguisher in one hand towel or sweatshirt in the other to put out the flames) good times at holister hills.

[barbastard]

Yeah...when that was going down Ryan's butt was puckering almost as bad as Mikeys was on the mini rubicon (as a passenger).

DEFINITELY good times as HH. Can't wait for more!!!! :2thumbs: